Religious intolerance (1 Viewer)

trevelfarandwide

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On her radio show, Dr Laura Schlesinger said that, as an observant Orthodox Jew, homosexuality is an abomination under any circumstances. The following is an open letter response to Dr Schlesinger, written by a U.S. man and posted on the internet:


Dear Dr Laura

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God’s law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate. I do need some advice from you however, regarding some other elements of God’s law and how to follow them.


1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided that they are purchased from neighbouring countries. A friend of mine claims this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can’t I own Canadians?


2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what would be a fair price for her?


3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness – Leviticus 15: 19-24. The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offence.


4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odour for the Lord – Leviticus 1:9. The problem is my neighbours. They claim the odour is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?


5. I have a neighbour who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?


6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination, Leviticus 11:10 – it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don’t agree. Can you settle this? Are there “degrees” of abomination?


7. Leviticus 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here?


8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair round their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Leviticus 19:27. How should they die?


9. I know from Leviticus 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?


10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Leviticus 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kind of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? (Leviticus 24:10-16) Couldn’t we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Leviticus 20:14)


I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerate expertise in such matters, so I’m confident you can help.

Thank you for reminding us that God’s word is eternal and unchanging.


Your adoring fan

John M Kauffman


(P.S. It would be a damn shame if we couldn’t own a Canadian.)
This is why God gave his only begotten Son to the world, so that they can be saved through Him. The God of the Old Testament is harsh, obdurate and uncompromising, however the God of the New Testament is softer and more accepting.

The quotes you provided are a brazen twist on the words of God, incidentally.

Before we start the 'God hates gays', it merely states in the Bible that a man may not lay with another man. Does it say that God hates a homosexual? No, because he doesn't.

This Kauffman chap is probably a Talmudic Jew, hence his hatred and spin regarding the Torah.
 

Houchens Head

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This is why God gave his only begotten Son to the world, so that they can be saved through Him. The God of the Old Testament is harsh, obdurate and uncompromising, however the God of the New Testament is softer and more accepting.

The quotes you provided are a brazen twist on the words of God, incidentally.

Before we start the 'God hates gays', it merely states in the Bible that a man may not lay with another man. Does it say that God hates a homosexual? No, because he doesn't.

This Kauffman chap is probably a Talmudic Jew, hence his hatred and spin regarding the Torah.
You really spout some fuckin' shit mate!
 

rob9872

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Feck me I'm out of my depth on here now - I'll pop back to trolling on football subjects I think! :)
 

Houchens Head

Fairly well known member from Malvern
why are you so rude though? you dont have to agree with him but you think its ok to be rude thats what i dont get.

and then whena thesists get it back they cry or other posters cry like little bitches on their behalf.

odd
How is telling it like it is, being rude?
 

trevelfarandwide

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You really spout some fuckin' shit mate!

Well, despite your profound ignorance and obnoxious intolerability, you are quite the most lazy Atheist here.

Research? Nah, too hard, just call the religious student a nutter.

What a nasty piece of work you are, sir.
 

trevelfarandwide

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Both travel and CCFC4life have blocked me on a thread about religious intolerance- sought of confirms the title.
Have I?

Nope, wrong there, mate. Maybe take a leaf out of Monners' book and do some research before mocking someone?

Or is that too much hard work? Look it up and get back to me: Catholicism and it's Romanic roots of paganism. Romans were pagans at the time of Christ, did you know that?

Nothing has changed in Rome. Like I said, dig a bit, then you'll see the truth. You won't find answers in the first 4 paged of a google search.
 

trevelfarandwide

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How is telling it like it is, being rude?
Because you are an ignorant person, that's why. Instead of researching the facts I've given you, your fear of the truth precipitates an outpouring of scorn and mockery.

If you are no longer Catholic, why do my words make you so angry as to post offensive, RELIGIOUSLY INTOLERANT posts and images?

Ironic. But hey, you must be right, you're an Atheist.
 

trevelfarandwide

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It's far easier for a lazy, nasty Atheist to scorn a Christian than to research the facts he posted, and the interpretations you asked for.

Instead you offend and your little pals hit the like button without looking into the facts themselves.

The only one spouting shit is YOU. You offensive old twat. Maybe I'll forgive you tomorrow, after the blatant trolling and flaming you've done has faded into the background.
 

trevelfarandwide

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Christians are being massacred all over the world, from Cairo to Mosul, but nobody gives a fuck right?

Well its not on the BBC so it can't be happening.

You Atheists wanna find a purpose in life, seriously, cos being purveyors of ignorance and mockery is indeed hollow and worthless.

Mock all you like, I'm done with this thread yet again, all I did was post some facts about Catholicism and it's another twat fest brewing with frightened little Atheists unable to process facts behind their knowledge.
 

Houchens Head

Fairly well known member from Malvern
Christians are being massacred all over the world, from Cairo to Mosul, but nobody gives a fuck right?

Well its not on the BBC so it can't be happening.

You Atheists wanna find a purpose in life, seriously, cos being purveyors of ignorance and mockery is indeed hollow and worthless.

Mock all you like, I'm done with this thread yet again, all I did was post some facts about Catholicism and it's another twat fest brewing with frightened little Atheists unable to process facts behind their knowledge.
You're leaving this thread? Thank fuck for that!!
 

Houchens Head

Fairly well known member from Malvern
Well, despite your profound ignorance and obnoxious intolerability, you are quite the most lazy Atheist here.

Research? Nah, too hard, just call the religious student a nutter.

What a nasty piece of work you are, sir.
Lazy Atheist? What the fuck do you mean? If there's nothing to believe in, how can I be called "lazy"? If Atheism was a 'religion', then maybe I'd have something to research, but don't ask me to research into the bullshit you worship Pal. I had a full fucking childhood of it! Now kindly do us all a favour and slip into something more comfortable............. like a coma! Maybe your god will come and rescue you! By the way, what is trevel, as in trevelfarandwide?
 

lifeskyblue

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Catholicism and Christianity are not one and the same, so please do not assume this.

This is what I find most amusing about the Godless, mocking, flippant and dismissive - they have little knowledge on religious history, the TRUE history of Christianity.

Research how Catholicism is a pagan religion, masquerading in the Glory of God, then return with your thoughts.

There are good Catholics out there, but they have been seriously misled by the horrors of the Catholic church.

Your arguments are flawed as no one knows for certain what 'true Christianity' is. There is no historical template to demonstrate one tradition is any more valid than another. We do not even have a record of the words of Jesus written at the time of his life.
I find people who tell me Catholics aren't Christian as uninformed as those who say Isis followers aren't real muslims. Most devout Catholics certainly see themselves as Christian as most Isis followers see themselves as Muslim.
I'm always 'frightened' of people who try and tell others what their real beliefs are. I think they are best placed to know.


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ccfc92

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Your arguments are flawed as no one knows for certain what 'true Christianity' is. There is no historical template to demonstrate one tradition is any more valid than another. We do not even have a record of the words of Jesus written at the time of his life.
I find people who tell me Catholics aren't Christian as uninformed as those who say Isis followers aren't real muslims. Most devout Catholics certainly see themselves as Christian as most Isis followers see themselves as Muslim.
I'm always 'frightened' of people who try and tell others what their real beliefs are. I think they are best placed to know.


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To be fair to Trevel, he seems more "These are my beliefs, but it's up to you to believe what you want to believe"
 

martcov

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Have I?

Nope, wrong there, mate. Maybe take a leaf out of Monners' book and do some research before mocking someone?

Or is that too much hard work? Look it up and get back to me: Catholicism and it's Romanic roots of paganism. Romans were pagans at the time of Christ, did you know that?

Nothing has changed in Rome. Like I said, dig a bit, then you'll see the truth. You won't find answers in the first 4 paged of a google search.

You told me you were blocking me a while ago.

Generally you seem to be a bad tempered sort of person who believes he knows the only real religion and god. I cannot imagine why any so called god would bother with you. If god created the universe and every creature in it, it would seem extremely ungodlike to waste time with a mere minuscule unimportant speck of dust such as yourself - especially if there were more constructive possibilities for a god who decided to mess around with minute beings on a pebble in his universe ..
 

martcov

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Well, despite your profound ignorance and obnoxious intolerability, you are quite the most lazy Atheist here.

Research? Nah, too hard, just call the religious student a nutter.

What a nasty piece of work you are, sir.

Religious student ? Study of bullshit? Study the history of myths and superstition by all means, but don't try and kid people that your religion is anything more/ better than the usual bullshit believed by your competitors in this field..
 

Otis

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You told me you were blocking me a while ago.

Generally you seem to be a bad tempered sort of person who believes he knows the only real religion and god. I cannot imagine why any so called god would bother with you. If god created the universe and every creature in it, it would seem extremely ungodlike to waste time with a mere minuscule unimportant speck of dust such as yourself - especially if there were more constructive possibilities for a god who decided to mess around with minute beings on a pebble in his universe ..
If he's a bad tempered sort of person maybe he IS God! ;)
 

Captain Dart

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yup just like me

but immature posters cannot accept that and HAVE to be right whatever that means

Thing is you are taking all this religion stuff deadly seriously because you believe in it, whereas the more sensible posters (the atheists) can take the piss mercilessly because there is nothing to respect or give credence to. Tough.
 

martcov

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also you both prove that its intolerence towards religious people.

Not intolerance though. Just having a laugh at people who believe in gods and devils. Would be really funny if religious people didn't kill or oppress people, but unfortunately some do and that's why we, or rather the security services, have to keep an eye on some of them.
 

Otis

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The Bible is bollocks.

Why on earth does the Bible say that only women can be anaesthetists? Absolute nonsense.

Clearly says in there 'let no man put us under.'
 

Captain Dart

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dancers lance

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This is why God gave his only begotten Son to the world, so that they can be saved through Him. The God of the Old Testament is harsh, obdurate and uncompromising, however the God of the New Testament is softer and more accepting.

The quotes you provided are a brazen twist on the words of God, incidentally.

Before we start the 'God hates gays', it merely states in the Bible that a man may not lay with another man. Does it say that God hates a homosexual? No, because he doesn't.

This Kauffman chap is probably a Talmudic Jew, hence his hatred and spin regarding the Torah.
What a load of bollocks.
 

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