chiefdave
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But was there anything significantly different between what the trust released and the final version that had been altered to satisfy SISU?
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skybluetony176
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There couldn't really be after the trust went out early could there. What were the club going to do? Omit things that the trust had reported and let the cat out of the bag that they're heavily doctored.
Also I remember when this happened and IIRC the trust took some abuse on here for doing so. Which brings me back to my previous point. Is there any scenario where the trust isn't at fault?
Ah you're right tony I was thinking of some chat re Venus took exception to.
I can assure you that myself and other trust committee members regularly made comments/ asked questions that were treated with disdain and were not always answered to our satisfaction or indeed minuted. When the minutes were sent out it was pointless querying or disagreeing with the contents as they were put out regardless.
The SCG is not fit for purpose in my view and I am disappointed by the partisan attitude of many on the group. The point Ray referred to during his phone call to cwr was in response to me saying during the last SCG meeting 'am I in the minority here who wants new owners for our club' Not one person responded except Ray. I was sat on my own at one end of the table and Ray stood up and joined me. My exact words and the response were not minuted accurately. The trust have and always will endeavour to question our owners and seek to improve the match day experience for all fans. Unfortunately very few members on the board represent anybody but themselves and their own inflated egos
The SCG is not fit for purpose in my view and I am disappointed by the partisan attitude of many on the group. The point Ray referred to during his phone call to cwr was in response to me saying during the last SCG meeting 'am I in the minority here who wants new owners for our club' Not one person responded except Ray. I was sat on my own at one end of the table and Ray stood up and joined me. My exact words and the response were not minuted accurately. The trust have and always will endeavour to question our owners and seek to improve the match day experience for all fans. Unfortunately very few members on the board represent anybody but themselves and their own inflated egos
SkyblueBazza
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It is all the usual bllx of, as you mentioned previously, ego & self interest...dressed up as transparency.
In this era if they really want to be transparent the darned meetings can be transmitted on Webex or similar...or at the very least stored as individual indexed sound recordings to be put on a website so everyone can hear the questions, challenges & answers. 'They' don't like that sort of thing though because 'They' have to work harder & think more about the answers, & put up or shut up!
...onwards & upwards PUSB
Broken Hearted Sky Blue
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You're right it should be about the match day stuff. The match day experience well let me tell you about my match day experience yesterday it was shite same as a lot of the games this season. The match day experience is not just about how the jsbs are treated or whether they have a party admirable as they are and fair play to Pat Raybould. It's not all about pricing of food and srink car parking etc. It's about how you as a fan feel about your experience on match day. It's about what the fans feel they've got out of the match.
The SCG was supposed to be a conduit to the club to raise fans concerns about the club so presumably most of the members of the SCG have no concerns and their match day experience this season have be great. I suggest they ask the majority of the fans what their matchday experiences have been.
Nick
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While people are there shouting over and over about the manager's budget and completely missing the point then nothing is going to get sorted about the matchday is it? The same as some sort of wrestling over who has the most power and who can sit on the spinny chair and shit like that. That's why I say leave it to the people like Pat and fuck everybody else off if they want power, they get a cup of tea and a biscuit. None of this pathetic chair stuff, it's like kids and their gangs.
I only use the JSB stuff as it's the only person I actually know of on there who does stuff in regards to match day, that's not to say there isn't
Broken Hearted Sky Blue
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While people are there shouting over and over about the manager's budget and completely missing the point then nothing is going to get sorted about the matchday is it? The same as some sort of wrestling over who has the most power and who can sit on the spinny chair and shit like that. That's why I say leave it to the people like Pat and fuck everybody else off if they want power, they get a cup of tea and a biscuit. None of this pathetic chair stuff, it's like kids and their gangs.
I only use the JSB stuff as it's the only person I actually know of on there who does stuff in regards to match day, that's not to say there isn't
It should be about questioning the club i.e. What is happening about Ryton? What's happening about the academy? What's happening about where we're going to play? What's happening about a manager? Why when we're in the shit are the club so quiet? How much do SISU want to go? What are the club going to do to actually give the fans a matchday experience.
letsallsingtogether
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But JSBs is only for a small percentage of the fanbase and who sadly 70 percent will stop going when they are old enough.While people are there shouting over and over about the manager's budget and completely missing the point then nothing is going to get sorted about the matchday is it? The same as some sort of wrestling over who has the most power and who can sit on the spinny chair and shit like that. That's why I say leave it to the people like Pat and fuck everybody else off if they want power, they get a cup of tea and a biscuit. None of this pathetic chair stuff, it's like kids and their gangs.
I only use the JSB stuff as it's the only person I actually know of on there who does stuff in regards to match day, that's not to say there isn't
I know I used to take 4 every home game for over 5 seasons sadly none go now
Nick
Administrator
But JSBs is only for a small percentage of the fanbase and who sadly 70 percent will stop going when they are old enough.
I know I used to take 4 every home game for over 5 seasons sadly none go now
No I know, that was just the one example I knew of. I don't know who most of the other people are on there to comment about who they represent.
I just think it needs to either be sacked off or sorted out. Nobody takes it seriously so probably wouldn't be a great loss. needs to cut out all of the power stuff, let's face it with all honesty that there is no power in the SCG. You can't impress people away from CCFC by mentioning it.*
*By you, I mean a you as in people there rather than you individually.
letsallsingtogether
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Yes it needs to be cleaned out and restarted.
It could be a real good tool for the fans as it was intended to be.
Shame about all the shit it sturs up.
They should all be told from the off any political shit from anyone and your off the group.
It is not about Sisu or the trust it is about what can we do to get fans back in the ground and keep them coming.
How can we get kids up there to take the place of us old uns when we are gone.
Better communication is the first step and none of this omitting stuff from the minutes unless it is detrimental to the team.
Hate to bring up the wasps but they are doing a deal buy a Leicester and European cup ticket and get 25% off.
How about City doing something simular if we get a home cup draw, and to make it fair give ST holders 25% off the cup tickets.
If we can get past the next round and draw a big club make sure you can't get a ticket for the cup game unless you buy one for the home game before or after the cup game, and sell block 16 last as we like the room.
Astute
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So everyone should stop trying to help the situation because SISU are censoring what we hear?
You should be questioning censorship not the right to be heard.
oldskyblue58
CCFC Finance Director
the various parties, including the Trust, attend because it is the only major point of contact with those in charge at the club. No matter how hard those meetings might be attendance is important.
Walking away, not attending simply reduces communication further and marginalises non attendees
Walking away, not attending simply reduces communication further and marginalises non attendees
Joy Division
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TF: We collected all applications and CV’s on Friday. Mark is still sitting in the caretaker position. We will go through the process and the profile of the manager we want. In the interim, Mark will continue to stay in charge.
I believe that Mark wants to be technical director, but he is taking responsibility of the first-team right now and he is not throwing his hat into the ring to be the permanent manager long term.
SGC meeting minutes 12.10.16
I believe that Mark wants to be technical director, but he is taking responsibility of the first-team right now and he is not throwing his hat into the ring to be the permanent manager long term.
SGC meeting minutes 12.10.16
Sky Blue Kid
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Of course Venus is not throwing his hat into the ring to be the permanent manager long term. Much richer pickings being on the board with Sale of Ryton coming up.
shmmeee
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue
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I was wondering where that teddy came from
TrueSkyBlueLiam
Member
I heard the phone in on he way back from Lye. Could barely hear the others, but then Ray came on and immediatly you could hear the passion in his voice. Its good to hear someone finally speak out
