Scg meeting notes from Thursday (1 Viewer)

Nick · Oct 17, 2016

oucho said:
We are only 'self sufficient' due to the Maddison sale, he said in the minutes of the previous call that although losses are decreasing we are still reliant on selling players. Who are we gonna sell this season??

Also stop peddling the 'din't protest sisu, support the team' line, as if the two are mutually incompatible.

Didn't he say do what you want outside and protest but at the game support the team? Hardly saying don't protest.

SkyBlueZack · Oct 17, 2016

oucho said:
We are only 'self sufficient' due to the Maddison sale, he said in the minutes of the previous call that although losses are decreasing we are still reliant on selling players. Who are we gonna sell this season??

Also stop peddling the 'din't protest sisu, support the team' line, as if the two are mutually incompatible.

Don't protest in the stadium he means. As a home ground you want to make it hostile for away teams, admittedly that would be difficult at the Ricoh anyway. We have an atmosphere that is tense and anxious waiting to spill over. Bearing in mind we have the youngest squad in the league, I imagine it is more difficult for the players to deal with due to inexperience.

This is not me saying fans shouldn't protest, or they don't have a right to or that SISU don't deserve it. Just looking at it from a different angle.

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Oct 17, 2016

SkyBlueZack said:
Don't protest in the stadium he means. As a home ground you want to make it hostile for away teams, admittedly that would be difficult at the Ricoh anyway. We have an atmosphere that is tense and anxious waiting to spill over. Bearing in mind we have the youngest squad in the league, I imagine it is more difficult for the players to deal with due to inexperience.

This is not me saying fans shouldn't protest, or they don't have a right to or that SISU don't deserve it. Just looking at it from a different angle.

Didn't seem to affect charlton

stupot07 · Oct 17, 2016

Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Didn't seem to affect charlton

Charlton aren't bottom of the league and struggling for confidence. They probably don't have as many youngsters as us either. TM said it a few times before he left.

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SkyBlueZack · Oct 17, 2016

Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Didn't seem to affect charlton

Do they have the youngest squad in the league? They have also just been relegated from the championship so more experienced players from playing at a higher level? Or differently Ricky Holmes for example was at Northampton when they had trouble with the owners.

letsallsingtogether · Oct 17, 2016

Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Didn't seem to affect charlton

And their manager seemed to back it said fans have the right to vent their spleen also said it didn't affect the players.
Funny only affects ours fuck um protest protest protest...........
Till their gone gone gone.

letsallsingtogether · Oct 17, 2016

stupot07 said:
Charlton aren't bottom of the league and struggling for confidence. They probably don't have as many youngsters as us either. TM said it a few times before he left.

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Don't you'll make me cry.......

oucho · Oct 17, 2016

Nick said:
Didn't he say do what you want outside and protest but at the game support the team? Hardly saying don't protest.

FFS. Are you saying that singing sisu out in the ground is 'not supporting the team'??? You do talk rubbish. I can sing SBA songs and sisu out, thanks.

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Oct 17, 2016

SkyBlueZack said:
Do they have the youngest squad in the league? They have also just been relegated from the championship so more experienced players from playing at a higher level? Or differently Ricky Holmes for example was at Northampton when they had trouble with the owners.

As I said to one guy at the station the protests at port vale were continuous at port vale and we won. They were more sporadic at charlton we lost.

SkyBlueZack · Oct 17, 2016

letsallsingtogether said:
And their manager seemed to back it said fans have the right to vent their spleen also said it didn't affect the players.
Funny only affects ours fuck um protest protest protest...........
Till their gone gone gone.

People are different. Did the protest help them win? No one has said fans don't have a right to protest, just that there is other ways of doing it. What if they don't go? What if it does affect the players?

letsallsingtogether · Oct 17, 2016

Nick said:
What's all of the "you know why I can't comment" stuff about?

Who's the advisor he thinks is on the board of somebody? Is that the pompey bloke?

Funny how you feel it is alright when Sisu do the we can't comment stuff but no other party is allowed to.

SkyBlueZack · Oct 17, 2016

Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
As I said to one guy at the station the protests at port vale were continuous at port vale and we won. They were more sporadic at charlton we lost.

Acknowledged. I suppose we'll find out in time. The protests will continue. SISU won't go. I hope for the benefit of the team and fans it don't affect the players.

letsallsingtogether · Oct 17, 2016

riyadhskyblue said:
My reading of the minutes is that TF went at SBR immediately and with an agenda that was to be belligerent. I have no idea whether that it was warranted or not by previous activity by SBR.I can understand why SBR felt isolated as a minority as he was certainly not supported by the other attendees.
Once on to the actual content of the meeting I thought TF's points were well made and it is hard to disagree that protesting has an affect on the team both in terms of revenue and morale and it ould be better if the fans got behind the team in the stadium. Also I accept that he has made the club self sufficient and one day he may take and get credit for that and will deserve it after the club has been hemorrhaging money for so long with few controls.
In separating SISU from CCFC and saying he has no influence tells us all we need to know about how CCFC and indeed TF are perceived by SISU. Not a high priority.

Funny how TF never stopped texting phoning SBR on Friday and Saturday for a private meet before the match.
As for making them self sufficient we we won't need as much money in league 2 so he maybe right.

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Oct 17, 2016

SkyBlueZack said:
Acknowledged. I suppose we'll find out in time. The protests will continue. SISU won't go. I hope for the benefit of the team and fans it don't affect the players.

I hope it doesn't however at present it's affecting me. I want to go to a game and have something to show for it win draw or lose I want my club to give just a little bit back to me after all I've given them. Am I getting anything from the club except contempt?

Monners · Oct 17, 2016

I don't think fans shouting SIsu out will be the reason the team goes down. What I didn't like at the end of the game on Saturday,were those fans who gave the team loads of abuse when they came over to clap the fans (which tells it own story on how much the protests affected the team,). The players did their best,it just isn't good enough.

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Oct 17, 2016

Monners said:
I don't think fans shouting SIsu out will be the reason the team goes down. What I didn't like at the end of the game on Saturday,was those fans who gave the team loads of abuse when they came over to clap the fans (which tells it own story on how much the protests affected the team,). The players did their bes,it just isnt good enough.

Sad to hear that we left just before end. Have never and won't ever abuse players you're right it's not their fault they're not very good.

Rusty Trombone · Oct 17, 2016

letsallsingtogether said:
Funny how TF never stopped texting phoning SBR on Friday and Saturday for a private meet before the match.
As for making them self sufficient we we won't need as much money in league 2 so he maybe right.

Any idea why Fisher is still involved when he claims he hasn't taken any money for 18 months?

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Oct 17, 2016

Rusty Trombone said:
Any idea why Fisher is still involved when he claims he hasn't taken any money for 18 months?

Arvo?

oucho · Oct 17, 2016

Monners said:
I don't think fans shouting SIsu out will be the reason the team goes down. What I didn't like at the end of the game on Saturday,were those fans who gave the team loads of abuse when they came over to clap the fans (which tells it own story on how much the protests affected the team,). The players did their best,it just isn't good enough.

It wasn't abuse. Ricketts especially walked over to applaud and be applauded, the response was that he should have walked straight off head bowed after the way he played.

chiefdave · Oct 17, 2016

Steve.B50 said:
No the Trust did not make an offer. They asked to meet JS in a confidential letter to discuss options.

The top investigative reporters at the CT have done well to get all the details if it was all supposed to be confidential.

What I don't get is the trust say they have been working on this for a while. They also say that have met and talked with all involved in this mess, including JS. Why not just ask her then?

NorthernWisdom · Oct 17, 2016

oucho said:
Who are we gonna sell this season??

Stevenson

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Oct 17, 2016

chiefdave said:
The top investigative reporters at the CT have done well to get all the details if it was all supposed to be confidential.

What I don't get is the trust say they have been working on this for a while. They also say that have met and talked with all involved in this mess, including JS. Why not just ask her then?

I think that was in the past not recently hence the letter I would suggest.

ccfcway · Oct 17, 2016

is "Anne Fenton" an annogram of "Simon Gilbert" ?

Nick · Oct 17, 2016

letsallsingtogether said:
Funny how you feel it is alright when Sisu do the we can't comment stuff but no other party is allowed to.

Sisu aren't representing me

NortonSkyBlue · Oct 17, 2016

ccfcway said:
is "Anne Fenton" an annogram of "Simon Gilbert" ?

If it is they are dyslexic

ccfcway · Oct 17, 2016

riyadhskyblue said:
If it is they are dyslexic

things we know about 5 dyslexia

shmmeee · Oct 17, 2016

ccfcway said:
is "Anne Fenton" an annogram of "Simon Gilbert" ?

SkyBlueZack · Oct 17, 2016

chiefdave said:
The top investigative reporters at the CT have done well to get all the details if it was all supposed to be confidential.

What I don't get is the trust say they have been working on this for a while. They also say that have met and talked with all involved in this mess, including JS. Why not just ask her then?

It's that award winning Simon Gilbert again. Just reporting the news aint he, what a hero

lewys33 · Oct 17, 2016

Christ reading that is unreal. TF really trying to put SBR in a position. Another "don't look at us look at them" moment. The whole thing is tosh. The SCG was set up to improve match-day experience - probably discussed in less than half of those minutes.

Fair play Steve, I know you have the best interests of CCFC at heart.

Nick · Oct 17, 2016

SkyBlueZack said:
It's that award winning Simon Gilbert again. Just reporting the news aint he, what a hero

If you want to know how we got here, I know a book that might tell you.

SkyBlueZack · Oct 17, 2016

Announcement in a week? #PUSB #CCFC

skybluetony176 · Oct 17, 2016

Nick said:
Sisu aren't representing me

You'd think you deserve an answer or two from them though as a CCFC fan.

oucho · Oct 17, 2016

SkyBlueZack said:
Announcement in a week? #PUSB #CCFC

Must have missed that, what do you mean?

torchomatic · Oct 17, 2016

oucho said:
We are only 'self sufficient' due to the Maddison sale, he said in the minutes of the previous call that although losses are decreasing we are still reliant on selling players. Who are we gonna sell this season??

Of course that's what we have to do to be self-sufficient. Peterborough have done the same for years. With falling gates what other option does the club have?

This is why, IMO, boycotting games does fuck all to hurt SISU. It only hurts CCFC.

letsallsingtogether · Oct 17, 2016

Nick said:
Sisu aren't representing me

I know you represent them

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