Serious question about ACL, CCC (5 Viewers)

[The Gentleman]

New to this posting but have been reading for a bit but wanted to ask a serious question to the likes of Grendel, Fernando, Torch, Hill83, Edgy and Robon to name some. What is it that ACL/CCC have done that is so bad to cop what they get from you lot continually. Don't bother coming back with smart arse remarks because this is a genuine question.

 

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[Godiva]

New to this posting but have been reading for a bit but wanted to ask a serious question to the likes of Grendel, Fernando, Torch, Hill83, Edgy and Robon to name some. What is it that ACL/CCC have done that is so bad to cop what they get from you lot continually. Don't bother coming back with smart arse remarks because this is a genuine question.

They have what should be owned by the club.

It's not a smart ass remark - It's a genuine answer.

 

[torchomatic]

Love it.

Don't bother coming back with smart arse remarks because this is a genuine question.

 

[ohitsaidwalker king power]

They have what should be owned by the club.

It's not a smart ass remark - It's a genuine answer.

Then let them pay.

 

[The Gentleman]

Agree it would be beneficial for the club to own its own ground but if it was never the clubs in the first place should we just gift it to them ?

 

[Sky Blue Harry H]

They have what should be owned by the club.

It's not a smart ass remark - It's a genuine answer.

Barcelona have Messi, who we could do with, Ben Turner should be with us too, but I don't knock Barcelona or Cardiff for that. We'd have to pay the going rate to buy them. (For the record Tim - get Messi first, and Big Ben next ... after you've got the extra cash in from the new ground )

 

[Grendel]

Agree it would be beneficial for the club to own its own ground but if it was never the clubs in the first place should we just gift it to them ?

What do you mean "we"

Surely its should they gift it to us?

 

[skybluetony176]

They have what should be owned by the club.

It's not a smart ass remark - It's a genuine answer.

correct, owned by the club. not a local authority landlord and not a hedge fund landlord. as sh1tsu have already admitted that the club wont own the ricoh should they ever get their hands on it some people need to wake up and smell another financially unviable rent deal.

 

[ohitsaidwalker king power]

What do you mean "we"

Surely its should they gift it to us?

Not this again.. making cheap points out of first person use of "we"..... its rubbish G and not worthy.

 

[The Gentleman]

Torch, why do you love it ? why not try and answer a straight question with a straight answer and not the usual sarcastic, I'm trying to be witty remark to make yourself look like you are something

 

[ajsccfc]

This'll go well.

 

[The Gentleman]

Grendel, again as with torchomatic, can you just answer the question.

 

[torchomatic]

I know we've been through this a zillion times but didn't the original building firm for the Arena pull out and the decontamination was more expensive and took longer than first thought? I think we (that's the club, not ACL!) simply ran out of cash. We were in a corner and ACL/CCC took full advantage.

 

[ohitsaidwalker king power]

I know we've been through this a zillion times but didn't the original building firm for the Arena pull out and the decontamination was more expensive and took longer than first thought? I think we (that's the club, not ACL!) simply ran out of cash. We were in a corner and ACL/CCC took full advantage.

and I blame the Romans....

 

[torchomatic]

Well considering you're allegedly new to the board and allegedly asking a genuine question why ask in such a "in your face" manner with the "smart arse" comment? Hardly conducive to friendly debate, is it?

Torch, why do you love it ? why not try and answer a straight question with a straight answer and not the usual sarcastic, I'm trying to be witty remark to make yourself look like you are something

 

[torchomatic]

Well, let's face it you'd blame anyone but ACL and CCC.

But you're right. That's nothing to do with it. ACL/CCC are perfectly innocent and have no blame what-so-ever in this farce. I was mistaken.

and I blame the Romans....

 

[skybluetony176]

Grendel, again as with torchomatic, can you just answer the question.

no they cant. that's why they do silly things like correct punctuation. in their eye's that mean's they must be more intelligent than the person with a structured argument and again in their eye's that must mean they are right in their opinion. only problem is no-one really understands their opinion or point off view as they are too busy trying to make out other people are stupid while talking nonsense.

 

[The Gentleman]

I know we've been through this a zillion times but didn't the original building firm for the Arena pull out and the decontamination was more expensive and took longer than first thought? I think we (that's the club, not ACL!) simply ran out of cash. We were in a corner and ACL/CCC took full advantage.

Ok, so if ACL/CCC hadn't taken full advantage (as you put it), where would we be ?

 

[ajsccfc]

It's not so much a serious question as a transparent attempt to call out 'the usual suspects'. There's been an odd amount of rabble-rousing today with the 'I've prepared some statements for you lol' and the 'explain yourself admin' threads.

 

[skybluetony176]

I know we've been through this a zillion times but didn't the original building firm for the Arena pull out and the decontamination was more expensive and took longer than first thought? I think we (that's the club, not ACL!) simply ran out of cash. We were in a corner and ACL/CCC took full advantage.

just remind me. what were the other options available to the club at the time other than being completely homeless? what was the original rent offered? what did the then "management" of the club ask for instead? was that the rent deal they ended up with?

 

[torchomatic]

I've never corrected anyone's punctuation.

no they cant. that's why they do silly things like correct punctuation. in their eye's that mean's they must be more intelligent than the person with a structured argument and again in their eye's that must mean they are right in their opinion. only problem is no-one really understands their opinion or point off view as they are too busy trying to make out other people are stupid while talking nonsense.

 

[torchomatic]

That's the point. There wasn't another option.

just remind me. what were the other options available to the club at the time other than being completely homeless? what was the original rent offered? what did the then "management" of the club ask for instead? was that the rent deal they ended up with?

 

[Grendel]

Grendel, again as with torchomatic, can you just answer the question.

Ok - worst treatment of any football club in a council stadium in terms of rental payments and revenue gains

- a desire to make commercial gain out if the club regardless of their financial state. Go and look how other councils have treated their clubs.

Ultimately though the issue is this - sisu are a faceless organisation that has zero interest in the football club. The council, you would hope, have done concern at preserving the club in the city. So altruism you would expect as many councils have - Swansea, stoke, forest and Doncaster to name but a few. However, they have demonstrated none.

Depends what you want. I want the club back in Coventry and I have no interest in the council, Higgs and certainly not ACL whose spiteful decision to reject a CVA has left us in the lower eschelons of the league rather than top 6.

This club has never been out of its city when it owned the stadium and had never been bankrupt once let alone twice.

I want the club back regardless - I suspect you'll concern yourself over other matters.

 

[The Gentleman]

It's not so much a serious question as a transparent attempt to call out 'the usual suspects'. There's been an odd amount of rabble-rousing today with the 'I've prepared some statements for you lol' and the 'explain yourself admin' threads.

Not it isn't, it is a serious question and i know its only early but haven't had a decent response yet. Maybe you would like to answer it.

 

[torchomatic]

Exactly. Particularly strange from a "new" poster to go on the attack straightaway.

It's not so much a serious question as a transparent attempt to call out 'the usual suspects'. There's been an odd amount of rabble-rousing today with the 'I've prepared some statements for you lol' and the 'explain yourself admin' threads.

 

[ohitsaidwalker king power]

Well, let's face it you'd blame anyone but ACL and CCC.

But you're right. That's nothing to do with it. ACL/CCC are perfectly innocent and have no blame what-so-ever in this farce. I was mistaken.

When did I say that ACL/CCC did not bear any blame? Show me a thread....
I blame SISU for the lions share.. will not deny.. with the same vigour you blame CCC/ACL, but do.

 

[Grendel]

no they cant. that's why they do silly things like correct punctuation. in their eye's that mean's they must be more intelligent than the person with a structured argument and again in their eye's that must mean they are right in their opinion. only problem is no-one really understands their opinion or point off view as they are too busy trying to make out other people are stupid while talking nonsense.

Says the man whose structured argument is to say SHITSU again and again.......

 

[ohitsaidwalker king power]

This'll go well.

You were right

 

[skybluetony176]

That's the point. There wasn't another option.[/QUOTE OK here's another question for you. What was the other options other than a ground share at sixfields? why didn't your beloved sh1tsu take them? why when the evil CCC hand out an olive branch with the aim of getting the club back in its home for xmas the even more evil shitsu snap it off by going back to court and then issuing more statements about the new stadium?

 

[ajsccfc]

Not it isn't, it is a serious question and i know its only early but haven't had a decent response yet. Maybe you would like to answer it.

You have had responses, you're just side-stepping them with some passive-aggressive 'please be serious and not mean like you normally are, am I right fellas?' tact.

That you reeled off names of such awful turncoats gave you up immediately.

 

[torchomatic]

And I've used the same phrase "SISU take the lion's shame of the blame" more than I can remember. Weird that people seem to forget that.

When did I say that ACL/CCC did not bear any blame? Show me a thread....
I blame SISU for the lions share.. will not deny.. with the same vigour you blame CCC/ACL, but do.

 

[ohitsaidwalker king power]

That's the point. There wasn't another option.

Why?

 

[torchomatic]

FFS, they are not my "beloved" SISU. Grow up.

OK here's another question for you. What was the other options other than a ground share at sixfields? why didn't your beloved sh1tsu take them? why when the evil CCC hand out an olive branch with the aim of getting the club back in its ho

 

[ohitsaidwalker king power]

And I've used the same phrase "SISU take the lion's shame of the blame" more than I can remember. Weird that people seem to forget that.

Its been a while though. I'd forgotten it. Playing devils advocate can sometimes lead to confusion in the as read position. A circumstance of forum media. Sorry.

 

[skybluetony176]

Says the man whose structured argument is to say SHITSU again and again.......

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