Championship thread 25/26! (48 Viewers)

[CraigSBA]

Just edgy nonsense isn’t it? Of course the owners who lost the ground relegated us to our lowest level in generations and split the fan base in two did more damage.

I agree with you tbh , sisu came here the club had moved onto a new stadium and were averaging over 21000 , they took on 38 million pounds worth of debt and they knew about this before they took over (look at how doug king has navigated us to where we are as a club )

The sisu years were frankly dogshit for 9 years until league 2 and even then the mental shite fans had to endure during the good robins years with further ground shares .
They destroyed the fanbase

Listen , the best way to sum up the sisu years was buying club merch off a pasting table in block 16 , we were by definition tinpot

 

[Shannerz]

Come on we’re Man U players reacting negatively to Radcliffes comments? Footballers generally don’t care

Apparently unhappy that they let him ooze his way into the dressing room.

An invasion of space.

Also, your last statement isn't one you can in any way corroborate. Footballers, generally, are advised to keep quiet. That's all you can say. Apart from perhaps that they are also a disparate collection of young men, and so no doubt hold as many different opinions on the world as in any other section of society.

 

[covcity4life]

If so, why did Fokking SISU choose to take us on so many unwanted journeys?

Because of damage done by previous owners?

Sisu overall did more good than harm once it was all said and done. They left us much better offf in championship than we were before they arrived . It wasn't just back to where we started. We now had potential and they got us closer to stadium by taking on the council for years and calling their bluff etc

They may have been shite and got perhaps got lucky many times along the way but they still overall helped improve our situation after what had come before they arrived. It's just a fact wether you like them or not.

 

[Grendel]

Just edgy nonsense isn’t it? Of course the owners who lost the ground relegated us to our lowest level in generations and split the fan base in two did more damage.

We lost the ground as the council refused extensions on the original stadium and then gave an unworkable deal - as you and your family know all too well

 

[shmmeee]

I agree with you tbh , sisu came here the club had moved onto a new stadium and were averaging over 21000 , they took on 38 million pounds worth of debt and they knew about this before they took over (look at how doug king has navigated us to where we are as a club )

The sisu years were frankly dogshit for 9 years until league 2 and even then the mental shite fans had to endure during the good robins years with further ground shares .
They destroyed the fanbase

Listen , the best way to sum up the sisu years was buying club merch off a pasting table in block 16 , we were by definition tinpot

Yeah Richardson and McGinnity were poor but not on the same scale and were dealing with a club relegated for the first time with football finance going crazy. Sisu took over a midtable Champ club with an option on a ground and took us out of the city to the lowest level while running up huge debt in the process. Without Robins we don’t get bought out by King and god knows where we’d be. Towards the end even as a top ten Champ side we were selling players to pay for the pitch. Just a shambles all round. And that’s before you look at the fact the club ended up paying £40m for the thing they broke the rent because they didn’t want it at half that price.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Just edgy nonsense isn’t it? Of course the owners who lost the ground relegated us to our lowest level in generations and split the fan base in two did more damage.

The ground was lost in 1999 when HR was sold. SISU were the consequences of what happened before that.

 

[Grendel]

Yeah Richardson and McGinnity were poor but not on the same scale and were dealing with a club relegated for the first time with football finance going crazy. Sisu took over a midtable Champ club with an option on a ground and took us out of the city to the lowest level while running up huge debt in the process. Without Robins we don’t get bought out by King and god knows where we’d be. Towards the end even as a top ten Champ side we were selling players to pay for the pitch. Just a shambles all round. And that’s before you look at the fact the club ended up paying £40m for the thing they broke the rent because they didn’t want it at half that price.

Sisu only were here as your wanker mates at the council forced them forward as the only option to own the club

Just fuck off with your revisionist bollocks

 

[Grendel]

The ground was lost in 1999 when HR was sold. SISU were the consequences of what happened before that.

Then of course the cretin McGinnity sold the buy back rights in the hope his company would get the seating contract

 

[CraigSBA]

Without arguing

didnt mcginnity reduce debts by over half from over 60 million in the 4 years before joe elliot took over ?

How is he as bad as sisu , im interested

Im all ears , i was only 17/18 during these years

 

[Lamps]

Without arguing

didnt mcginnity reduce debts by over half from over 60 million in the 4 years before joe elliot took over ?

How is he as bad as sisu , im interested

Im all ears , i was only 17/18 during these years

Without McGinnity there wouldn't have been SISU.

 

[Grendel]

Without arguing

didnt mcginnity reduce debts by over half from over 60 million in the 4 years before joe elliot took over ?

How is he as bad as sisu , im interested

Im all ears , i was only 17/18 during these years

the clubs external debt was very low and also was mainly with co op bank. We could under rules at the time just put the club into admin with no penalties.

Richardson wanted that but was booted out as the debt was mainly owed to Robinson - McGinnity was just his stooge so he decided to then just run the club down to still stay in business.

McGinnity was slaughtered in the Justice Taylor report on how he exploited the Hillsborough disaster to try with his crony Bert Millichip to make a killing on all seater stadiums. He assumed he’d be given the Ricoh deal if he effectively handed over the purchase rights to the original ground and moved

He didn’t get the seating contract. Much of the original debt just carried over when Sisu purchased and was dumped in SBS and L

 

[torchomatic]

The ground was lost in 1999 when HR was sold. SISU were the consequences of what happened before that.

Absolutely. Started with BR.

 

[CraigSBA]

the clubs external debt was very low and also was mainly with co op bank. We could under rules at the time just put the club into admin with no penalties.

Richardson wanted that but was booted out as the debt was mainly owed to Robinson - McGinnity was just his stooge so he decided to then just run the club down to still stay in business.

McGinnity was slaughtered in the Justice Taylor report on how he exploited the Hillsborough disaster to try with his crony Bert Millichip to make a killing on all seater stadiums. He assumed he’d be given the Ricoh deal if he effectively handed over the purchase rights to the original ground and moved

He didn’t get the seating contract. Much of the original debt just carried over when Sisu purchased and was dumped in SBS and L

Ok didnt know much of this

To be honest though in my match going years the sisu years felt pretty terrible for many years .. it was a long winded war of attrition and left the fans feeling hopeless .. it was a pretty terrible time

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Ok didnt know much of this

To be honest though in my match going years the sisu years felt pretty terrible for many years .. it was a long winded war of attrition and left the fans feeling hopeless .. it was a pretty terrible time

Put it another way, we went from a club that had spent 34 years in the top flight to a bottom half second tier one very rapidly. That doesn’t happen without something quite seriously wrong at the top of the club. There were compounding factors with the ITV Digital collapse and generally getting relegated at a very bad time, just before TV money accelerated in the Prem. But those running the club made it especially exposed and vulnerable.

This is to take nothing from what SISU did and Ray Ranson especially gets off lightly for his role in things going pear shaped in my opinion. We have just been very badly run for nearly a quarter of a century-had the previous lot stayed in charge instead things would likely have been little better.

 

[robbiethemole]

Put it another way, we went from a club that had spent 34 years in the top flight to a bottom half second tier one very rapidly. That doesn’t happen without something quite seriously wrong at the top of the club. There were compounding factors with the ITV Digital collapse and generally getting relegated at a very bad time, just before TV money accelerated in the Prem. But those running the club made it especially exposed and vulnerable.

This is to take nothing from what SISU did and Ray Ranson especially gets off lightly for his role in things going pear shaped in my opinion. We have just been very badly run for nearly a quarter of a century-had the previous lot stayed in charge instead things would likely have been little better.

just like what's happened at Leicester?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

just like what's happened at Leicester?

That is a fall from grace for the record books.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Yeah Richardson and McGinnity were poor but not on the same scale and were dealing with a club relegated for the first time with football finance going crazy. Sisu took over a midtable Champ club with an option on a ground and took us out of the city to the lowest level while running up huge debt in the process. Without Robins we don’t get bought out by King and god knows where we’d be. Towards the end even as a top ten Champ side we were selling players to pay for the pitch. Just a shambles all round. And that’s before you look at the fact the club ended up paying £40m for the thing they broke the rent because they didn’t want it at half that price.

One thing SISU didn't actually do was run up debt. They lent the club money to cover losses which amounted to around £14m after a 16 year tenure.

The club had very little external debt at the point of the takeover. COVID loans from the EFL to cover losses from lockdown like everybody else.

What was on offer in 2012/13 when the negotiations broke down was a half share in a struggling ACL, nothing like what King has subsequently purchased.

 

[shmmeee]

One thing SISU didn't actually do was run up debt. They lent the club money to cover losses which amounted to around £14m after a 16 year tenure.

The club had very little external debt at the point of the takeover. COVID loans from the EFL to cover losses from lockdown like everybody else.

What was on offer in 2012/13 when the negotiations broke down was a half share in a struggling ACL, nothing like what King has subsequently purchased.

Whatever you need to tell yourself man. Like the other contrarians on here you backed Sisu against all sense.

 

[shmmeee]

Nigel Farage claims Sunderland have invited him to visit the Stadium of Light

The Reform UK leader sparked controversy this week after a visit to Ipswich Town's Portman Road, where he posed for photos and videos.

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All the best clubs

 

[fernandopartridge]

Whatever you need to tell yourself man. Like the other contrarians on here you backed Sisu against all sense.

Contrarian

 

[fernandopartridge]

Always worth a laugh

 

[EAst ender]

I'm glad to see my beloved club have one use, to give every other clubs support a bloody good laugh at our expense!
Absolutely scandalous decision by our powers that be. I'm just happy that we've got enough to probably survive.
It's that bad that even the rovers are laughing at us at the mo.

 

[Shannerz]

All the best clubs

I mean, that begins with the words, 'Nigel Farage claims'...

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

Man reading the Sisu vs McGinnity makes me realise how awful our luck was with owners.

Any good books or reads on the issues we had since 1999. Feels like it would be a good read.

 

[covcity4life]

Man reading the Sisu vs McGinnity makes me realise how awful our luck was with owners.

Any good books or reads on the issues we had since 1999. Feels like it would be a good read.

And to think people after all that were on kings back for sacking a manager or not buying one player lol

 

[Ccfcisparks]

And to think people after all that were on kings back for sacking a manager or not buying one player lol

you with King

 

[Fergusons_Beard]

Whatever you need to tell yourself man. Like the other contrarians on here you backed Sisu against all sense.

Actually like most of us said at the time we were pro club, anti owners and anti
Council.

We took the side of the club not the owners.

It’s obviously still a concept you can’t get your head around….


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[covcity4life]

Actually like most of us said at the time we were pro club, anti owners and anti
Council.

We took the side of the club not the owners.

It’s obviously still a concept you can’t get your head around….


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And now the boycotters make sure they are on every wembley trip

Pathetic

 

[Mcbean]

NOPM

NOT A PREMIERSHIP MORE

shurely not ….

 

[shmmeee]

Actually like most of us said at the time we were pro club, anti owners and anti
Council.

We took the side of the club not the owners.

It’s obviously still a concept you can’t get your head around….


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I mean maybe cos it’s a completely nonsense concept tha has no meaning other than to defend your decision to back owners who damaged the club. Whatever I’m not debating this with the loons on this site. Unlike you weirdos I’m glad Sisu are gone and think they caused huge damage.

 

[Hiraeth]

Contrarian

Whether you are a contrarian or not fp, I'm bloody glad that it appears to have ultimately worked out for the best.

The club is no longer in a position where we have to sell players to fix a pitch that wasn't being maintained by a failing rugby club who had been trusted to own and run the arena and we're no longer owned by Sisu.

The chances of us all agreeing about who was to blame for the past and to what degree each party was feel about as likely as there being a public enquiry into the Coventry City of Culture collapse.

Just glad the City of Rugby disaster failed as spectacularly as it did and we're not on still living on page two thousand and twenty six of the 'When will Wasps die?' thread being told by lots of people that we need to accept reality and understand that Wasps will always be in charge of the stadium etc

 

[Hiraeth]

I'm glad to see my beloved club have one use, to give every other clubs support a bloody good laugh at our expense!
Absolutely scandalous decision by our powers that be. I'm just happy that we've got enough to probably survive.
It's that bad that even the rovers are laughing at us at the mo.

I quite like Woy but it does feel like there must have been a massive fallout between Struber and the CEO for this to play out like this at this point in the season.

Injuries and player sales have played a part but considering how close the Robins were to second at end of November, I feel the margins in the Championship between success or otherwise are pretty fine.

 

[Samueljames1991]

Best team in the league everyone

 

[David O'Day]

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Best team in the league everyone

yet I fear for them as they could easily only make the play offs

 

[Samueljames1991]

yet I fear for them as they could easily only make the play offs

They'll go out in the semis