25/26 January Transfer Window (74 Viewers)

DT-R

Well-Known Member
He captained them last season and is very highly rated. He is a victim of them needing to sign premier level players to stay up, similar to their keeper. I think he would be a decent signing, probbly lower than his value too due to his contract situation.
Thing is though, if he wasnt good enough for the step up for them and needed replacing 6 months ago, its surely a silly signing. If he was free or loan id be all over it. Exactly what we need for promotion push. But why spend cash on a player already deemed not good enough for the step up by another club?

Sent from my SM-S711B using Tapatalk
 

fatso

Well-Known Member
We will never get a better chance than this its simple

If we dont spend a penny in this window its not good enough is it let's be honest. Its not like we have a complete squad, we have 1 capable left back, 1 capable DM.

Yes the squads done brilliantly so far, but our rivals are strengthening and closing. Standing still will get us overtaken
The issue is we have players that we cant get rid of, as you say, we have 1 capable LB, but we have 3 in the squad, Doug paid top wages for Woolfenden, who now appears to be 4th choice CH and is unlikely to get many minutes. We have Lats and Allen who can be bit part players, but arnt good enough to give competition to the regular starters, and Eccles who is also a fringe player.
Doug won't keep adding to the squad while we carry so many players.
 
Last edited:

Lamps

Well-Known Member
We will never get a better chance than this its simple

If we dont spend a penny in this window its not good enough is it let's be honest. Its not like we have a complete squad, we have 1 capable left back, 1 capable DM.

Yes the squads done brilliantly so far, but our rivals are strengthening and closing. Standing still will get us overtaken
They closed the gap when we had several players missing and couldn't put anyone on the bench that could change a game.

Against Millwall we brought on Torp, BTA and Saka on with 20 minutes to go and Simms with 10 minutes to go. Against Leicester we brought on Saka and Wright on 67 minutes, Eccles on 72 minutes and BTA on 83 minutes. Strangely enough we took 6 points from 2 difficult games.

Yes it would be good to bring in more players, but we're a lot stronger than when we had our little wobble and stronger than at the start of the season.
 

DT-R

Well-Known Member
We will never get a better chance than this its simple

If we dont spend a penny in this window its not good enough is it let's be honest. Its not like we have a complete squad, we have 1 capable left back, 1 capable DM.

Yes the squads done brilliantly so far, but our rivals are strengthening and closing. Standing still will get us overtaken
But if we dont sign anyone or go up its ok because dough has paid for the ground and bought in Esse on loan! Its not all doom and gloom.

Sent from my SM-S711B using Tapatalk
 

Trueskyblue20

Well-Known Member
The issue is we have players that we cant get rid of, as you say, we have 1 capable LB, but we have 3 in the squad, Doug paid top wages for Woolfenden, who now appears to be 4th choice CH abd is unlikely to get many minutes. We have Lats and Allen who can be bit part players, but arnt good enough to give competition to the regular starters, and Eccles who is also a fringe player.
Doug won't keep adding to the squad while we carry so many players.

That’s a fair argument I suppose but it just highlights the poor squad planning. Brau looks a poor signing and we could really do with getting rid of Bidwell
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
We will never get a better chance than this its simple

If we dont spend a penny in this window its not good enough is it let's be honest. Its not like we have a complete squad, we have 1 capable left back, 1 capable DM.

Yes the squads done brilliantly so far, but our rivals are strengthening and closing. Standing still will get us overtaken
And the only person to blame will be the owner who everyone is in love with on here. Time for a reality check, spending £0 when your top in January should be a criminal offence. Let’s hope he has a surprise or 2 up his sleeve but I think we’re done
 

Lamps

Well-Known Member
Not really. He is a loan.
So they wouldn't want him on loan?

We're the only side that didn't rely on loans for outfield players. Now we have spaces for them. There's a good chance of keeping Esse permanently after this season. He loves working with Lampard and is going to improve even more.
 

Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
So they wouldn't want him on loan?

We're the only side that didn't rely on loans for outfield players. Now we have spaces for them. There's a good chance of keeping Esse permanently after this season. He loves working with Lampard and is going to improve even more.
Is there a good chance should we not go up?

How do you know he loves working with Lampard. Is there an interview I missed.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
There's a good chance of keeping Esse permanently after this season. He loves working with Lampard and is going to improve even more.

is there any evidence regarding this?
 

Freddie

Active Member
I wonder if we're trying to move Wolfenden on? Was a huge waste of money, with the fee and the wages. He'll be gone in the summer whatever happens, I hope.
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
So they wouldn't want him on loan?

We're the only side that didn't rely on loans for outfield players. Now we have spaces for them. There's a good chance of keeping Esse permanently after this season. He loves working with Lampard and is going to improve even more.
You call yourself ‘astute’ and used to sit all day and night on a Sunderland forum, the fact you make wild claims like you have done is hilarious. Proper sad individual
 

Covkid1968#

Well-Known Member
To be honest, we’ve addressed the biggest need imo so even if we signed no one else, it’s still a decent transfer window.

Esse on loan is a coup of a signing.
Ah …thought I saw an opportunity to wheel out Mick. My mistake
 

Attachments

  • IMG_0301.jpeg
    IMG_0301.jpeg
    513.6 KB · Views: 15

Balli001

Well-Known Member
Thing is though, if he wasnt good enough for the step up for them and needed replacing 6 months ago, its surely a silly signing. If he was free or loan id be all over it. Exactly what we need for promotion push. But why spend cash on a player already deemed not good enough for the step up by another club?

Sent from my SM-S711B using Tapatalk
So you only want to sign premier league level players before we actually get there?
 

Lamps

Well-Known Member
Is there a good chance should we not go up?

How do you know he loves working with Lampard. Is there an interview I missed.
Yes. Lampard said in an interview that Esse talks to him after each game asking him what he could have done better and on how he can improve.
 

Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
The usual anti signing brigade are saying we should be happy with what we have.

All thats being asked for is a statement midfield signing ala Hamer, Louza, Onyeka and Andrews going out on loan.

That isn't asking for the world, particularly for a team at the top of the league looking to cement their position there.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
There is an extremely high chance that it is, in fact, good enough. We shall see at the end of the season.

Are we no longer classing Jake Bidwell or Josh Eccles as capable players now?
Bidwell has slowed tremendously and does need replacing unfortunately

For a side at the top of the table we need better.

Shame, because I have always rated him, but he's 32 now and will be 33 in March.
 

Lamps

Well-Known Member
The usual anti signing brigade are saying we should be happy with what we have.

All thats being asked for is a statement midfield signing ala Hamer, Louza, Onyeka and Andrews going out on loan.

That isn't asking for the world, particularly for a team at the top of the league looking to cement their position there.
So who has said we should be happy with what we have? Everyone would love more signings but most understand how hard it is to bring in the calibre of players we need to be able to play a big part for the rest of the season.
 

fatso

Well-Known Member
But if we dont sign anyone or go up its ok because dough has paid for the ground and bought in Esse on loan! Its not all doom and gloom.

Sent from my SM-S711B using Tapatalk
Exactly!
People forget how much Doug has already spent buying the stadium.
and offloading Obikwu for 500k just after bringing in 2 loans (with the loan fees/wages) would suggest Doug is keen to balance the books.

As much as I'd love to see another experienced DM join us, I'd not be suprised if we stick with the squad we now have.
 

quinn1971

Well-Known Member
A CM is very much on the shopping list and has been all window. Why do you think the links to the likes of Neil, Hamer and Onyeka have been about?

Let's hope we manage to get it over the line because if we dont strengthen and we miss out Doug will need to answer to it
Its def wages, why would you not want to come to a team that’s going to be in the prem next season, yeah, that’s the only worry if the unthinkable happens then it’ll be why didn’t we sign someone, but I reckon what we’ve got will get it done
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Top