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SHUNT31

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What gives you the idea that the people coming here now don't want to work? Can you tell me exactly how much asylum seekers get in benefit?

When you've looked it up, ask yourself if you'd travel thousands of miles from your home and risk your life for it.

There's undoubtedly a reasonable discussion to have about immigration, but starting it from the assumption that they're all coming here to claim benefit or commit crime is, frankly, rubbish.
Where did I say those were my views? I am merely voicing what others have said to me, articles read etc.

I am very much in the centre, I can see the pros and cons of immigration. Although, I do often ask myself why would someone pay £000’s to risk their life on a dinghy over the channel when they have already found safe refuge in multiple countries before the UK?

I know asylum seekers get £49.18 a week but this is after having all their expenses (excluding meals). Not a lot really but with accommodation etc is a significant cost to the taxpayer.

RE crime, it’s actually statistically correct. Believe it or not.
 

David O'Day

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Much like the rangers ones which appeared in our toilets before, weird people you're literally at a cov game 😂
yep, laughed at those as well.

And for the record before anyone gets upset I'd think you equally sad if you brought Celtic stickers to a cov game.
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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Valid point.

Although, was the immigration we saw in the 60/70’s was a lot more beneficial to this country in a sense that the people arriving back then came here to work?

I’ve done a lot of research on these topics and have friends from both ends of the political spectrum. My more right sided friends do not seem to care if you are black, white etc. Their issues are that a significant number of the people are claiming asylum with no intention of ever working or contributing to society along with the disproportionate crime rates.
It’s funny as the same arguments and protests happened in the 60s and 70s that they are now.

Also it’s a different world Imo, on the wind rush generation people came from the explicit purpose of work where as Asylum seekers aren’t legally allowed to work until their claim is sorted which has a huge backlog. There’s no legal way to come for the majority of seekers as the UK hasn’t got an asylum visa and will pull your visa if they believe you are coming to claim asylum.
 

chiefdave

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Given out at the Derby match

Especially in light of the Kasey Palmer incident.

I know they’re in a minority but we really don’t need them in our club.

And before anyone jumps on this with political, nationalism statements-it’s very definitely racist-you can imagine what the blurred out word is


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What are the odds that the person giving these out is quick to shout 'no politics in sport' when players take the knee or wear rainbow laces?
Although, was the immigration we saw in the 60/70’s was a lot more beneficial to this country in a sense that the people arriving back then came here to work?
There was a documentary on recently that had some footage from the 60/70s where exactly the same views as today were being expressed. Sadly it featured an archive clip of some lads from Coventry proudly saying how they only beat up the black men, they didn't beat up the women, just spat on them.
 

SHUNT31

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What are the odds that the person giving these out is quick to shout 'no politics in sport' when players take the knee or wear rainbow laces?

There was a documentary on recently that had some footage from the 60/70s where exactly the same views as today were being expressed. Sadly it featured an archive clip of some lads from Coventry proudly saying how they only beat up the black men, they didn't beat up the women, just spat on them.
What was it called?
 

Ccfcisparks

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I also think the club should do what Bilbao do and only sign pure blood Englishman.

Could we do an exercise where we trace a players roots back to the 11th century just to make sure, alongside the medical?
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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oh fuck off

the cunts who hand this shit out don't care about illegal immigration, they just hate non white people

Nah, this is just a lazy argument to shut down the immigration debate.

The reality is that a lot of people have had enough of the situation in the UK, and the politicians aren't listening. Anyone that speaks out are classed by some as racist, far-right, or whatever else. This is making the problem worse as there is still no real moderate conversation permitted without it turning into something like this.

No, this doesn't have anything to do with CCFC, and this should also be discussed in the off topic - but some of the reactions on here are equally embarrasing.
 

WestEndAgro

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The UK takes a tiny proportion of immigrants that come to Europe. It’s a fact that we actually need them with our aging population. The care / health sector is just one of many areas screaming for this.

Reform suggesting otherwise whilst bemoaning public services, benefit cost, the economy etc is fucking laughable.
If you don't see the "Boats" as a problem, i suggest you take your head out of your own arse.
We are talking about illegal immigration, not controlled.
 

torchomatic

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Some dense bloke with no critical thinking using our badge, I'm sure he's a 'keep politics out of football' type fella when it's standing up to racism or promoted women or LGBT inclusivity in the game. Sick of this creeping fascism attempting to use football clubs to promote nonsense. 'Football lads alliance' was another one that made me completely cringe, people that don't even go to the games marching with 'are tommeh' using ours and other good clubs badges in attempt to legitimise it. Just go to the game and enjoy it without being an arsehole and lumping the rest of us in your nonsense

There's the hypocrisy too. Don't want them forriners coming over here making a better life for themselves...yet they're all on holiday in Spain or living over there. Fine for them to have a better life, but not anyone else. Same with Yaxley-Lennon. Loves England so much he's never here. He'll be on a sunbed watching the money rolling in. Laughing at the thick twats who worship him.
 

torchomatic

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I would put £100 that the same idiots that made these also spouted “keep politics out of football” when players were taking the knee

Spot on. The "all lives matter" crowd.
 

clint van damme

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Nah, this is just a lazy argument to shut down the immigration debate.

The reality is that a lot of people have had enough of the situation in the UK, and the politicians aren't listening. Anyone that speaks out are classed by some as racist, far-right, or whatever else. This is making the problem worse as there is still no real moderate conversation permitted without it turning into something like this.

No, this doesn't have anything to do with CCFC, and this should also be discussed in the off topic - but some of the reactions on here are equally embarrasing.

Not sure sticking a picture of Rupert Lowe on a cistern in the away toilets at Pride Park is going to instigate civil discourse.
 

David O'Day

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To be fair she's just gone out of her way to massively help someone I know.
And the person is no longer one of her constituents but the person who brought the issue to her attention is.
She's a really good person, I have issues with her "party" and why she formed it but that is not for here but she will help anyone if she can.

A lot of MPs only pay lip service to constituency work.
 

SBT

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Not sure sticking a picture of Rupert Lowe on a cistern in the away toilets at Pride Park is going to instigate civil discourse.
Rupert Lowe is a far-right politician, I don’t think it’s a controversial thing to say that the people who “love” him are endorsing far right views. Maybe they feel uncomfortable being labelled that, but that’s on them.
 

Jim

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Cost of “asylum seekers” to UK economy is about 0.4% of GDP.

Cost of benefit fraud by UK nationals is 0.8% of GDP.

Once processed the Asylum Seekers will go to work and be a net positive benefit to the economy, including a general reduction in NHS burden, as ironically (as idiots point out) they are all (apparently) males of fighting age, so unlikely to require medical help.

So remind me why “boat people” are the issue and not lazy British pricks who can’t be arsed working.
 

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