Winny the Bish
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Kitching going from “the defender we need to upgrade” to “clearly better than Thomas” in the space of 48 hours because we won a game is peak forum behaviour.
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Tommo1993
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It was never the case was it really. A stubborn Robins froze him out.
Cally Fedora
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I don’t think the consensus has ever been that Kitching is the one that needs to improve.
TomRad85
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I've always found the 2 of them to be a fairly similar standard personally. That standard being much better than Lati and Binks.
thekidfromstrettoncamp
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According to many on here yes
I'm not 1 of those by the way .I've always like the way he tries to split the oppostitions defence with passes through the middle and those two wide passes yesterday were sublime
mmttww
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or people never thought of Thomas as the better player to begin with, and it's just Kitching's passes from the game that's got people talking about him.
He's looked like our best CB by a distance over pre-season and in the competitive games since. Think him and Thomas are about the same defensively.
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Calista
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Torp missed last year's pre-season, so it's no surprise that it took him a long time to show his best form.
Cally Fedora
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Accept that. But pre-season is in July and August. The season runs until the following May.
Old Warwickshire lad
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What a strange thing to say. Maybe the truly modern man ( whatever that means) has to be there 27/7 when his wife is expecting.
But to most of us bought up in the real world, playing a professional football match for which you are being paid thousands of pounds, you would automatically break off your husbandly duties and return later.
It called working for a living, not all of us had time off to have babies
Really pleased Kitchen is really starting to show quality and consistency. Always thought he would.
Worth remembering that although Robins froze him out, he did deserve to lose his place. First off, he was suspended at the start of last season and Binks’ defensive shortcomings hadn’t fully revealed themselves.
In 23/24, Kitching’s form had sunk somewhere between the Wolves game where he was excellent and the Man U game where he looked totally out of sorts. Most of us will remember how the season fell totally flat and some of that is on him.
Fair play to him for pulling his finger out, getting in shape and getting his place back.
Worth remembering that although Robins froze him out, he did deserve to lose his place. First off, he was suspended at the start of last season and Binks’ defensive shortcomings hadn’t fully revealed themselves.
In 23/24, Kitching’s form had sunk somewhere between the Wolves game where he was excellent and the Man U game where he looked totally out of sorts. Most of us will remember how the season fell totally flat and some of that is on him.
Fair play to him for pulling his finger out, getting in shape and getting his place back.
*Kitching
27/7 would be a stretch, but I’d have thought most dads want to at least be there to help during the labour! And I think he still would have got paid too…What a strange thing to say. Maybe the truly modern man ( whatever that means) has to be there 27/7 when his wife is expecting.
But to most of us bought up in the real world, playing a professional football match for which you are being paid thousands of pounds, you would automatically break off your husbandly duties and return later.
It called working for a living, not all of us had time off to have babies
RegiswasGod
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Kitching is our best defender. Strong, composed, and is capable of a great pass. Big fan
oakey
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As a mother of two I can tell you IMO most men are of no use in the delivery suite. This is an open secret amongst women. It is a modern idea we could do without. It's part of this, "we had a baby" nonsense.
His partner will have managed perfectly well without him there.
... Retreats to safe distance
clint van damme
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Old Warwickshire lad
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Ha, well that’s true enough - although it didn’t stop my wife from taking a very dim view of my idea of going to Wembley last season when our due date coincided with the playoff final last season. I imagine the Kitchings have a different dynamic!As a mother of two I can tell you IMO most men are of no use in the delivery suite. This is an open secret amongst women. It is a modern idea we could do without. It's part of this, "we had a baby" nonsense.
His partner will have managed perfectly well without him there.
... Retreats to safe distance
Old Warwickshire lad
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At last, women who says it as it is. So all you woke daddy’s to be,do as she said and stay out of the way.As a mother of two I can tell you IMO most men are of no use in the delivery suite. This is an open secret amongst women. It is a modern idea we could do without. It's part of this, "we had a baby" nonsense.
His partner will have managed perfectly well without him there.
... Retreats to safe distance
Shannerz
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Thankfully, there aren't many workplaces nowadays that wouldn't afford a father-to-be time off to attend the birth of their child. I am sure there would have been no issue with Kitching missing the game should he have chosen to.It called working for a living, not all of us had time off to have babies
Good for us that he did play, and I don't doubt it was with his partner's full blessing.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Might be useless but possibly creates that bond between father and child if they're present at the birth.As a mother of two I can tell you IMO most men are of no use in the delivery suite. This is an open secret amongst women. It is a modern idea we could do without. It's part of this, "we had a baby" nonsense.
His partner will have managed perfectly well without him there.
... Retreats to safe distance
Otherwise it's just a small crying shit machine that suddenly appears in your house.
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hundred percent agree. I thought Eccles was at fault for all 3Why does nobody ever give the midfield shit for their shoddy cover and simply blame thomas or kitching
Like 2 centre halves can stop the world irrespective of whats going on around them
Frostie
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Wasn't really Robins who froze him out in fairness.
Started 25 out of 35 in 23/24 & then 5 out of 13 under Robins last season.
It was after that he only started 1 of the next 12.
Calista
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Yeah Bobby was chuffed
SeaSeeEffCee
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Good to see you back mate
clint van damme
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Another SBT myth bed, (apart from the posters who'll repeat it ad nauseum).
Old Warwickshire lad
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As Nan would say, “ worra load of
” .You build your relationship with your kids over the decades that follow their birth.
If you don’t want a crying
machine in your house. Don’t have kids. You would think that having kids was something new that today’s mummy’s and daddy’s had just invented.
No wonder there are so many spoiled little darlings running around the place.
shmmeee
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Why does nobody ever give the midfield shit for their shoddy cover and simply blame thomas or kitching
Like 2 centre halves can stop the world irrespective of whats going on around them
More cope. They have a DM sit with them and hold their hand. And again most of their failures are loss on concentration at set pieces giving the ball away or losing their man. We aren’t getting ripped apart on the break, or massively overrun, we are handing out goals like they’re bracelets at a Taylor Swift concert. The defence is crying out for some organisational ability and defensive wisdom. People are desperate to put the blame anywhere but the two players tasked mainly with defending our goal.
Evo1883
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And yet , the data is telling Sheffield united to spend a few million on one of them
Maybe they plan to put him next to the experienced jack Robinson
He was losing his head at,was it Ipswich they lost 4-1 proper losing it with the officials, I have to say he was right to as well.And yet , the data is telling Sheffield united to spend a few million on one of them
Maybe they plan to put him next to the experienced jack Robinson
Robins obviously preferred Binks at start of last season, whether that’s because of a fall out or he preferred Binks as a CB I don’t know. Had to double check and out of first nine games Kitching played three times, once against Bristol city in cup (clean sheet, Binks back next game) and Oxford in cup (clean sheet, Binks back next game), Watford away 1-1, 5 at the back.
we then lost to spurs in cup (Kitching was dropped again) and Swansea at home. Then Kitching got a run of three games before robins reverted to 5 at the back without Kitching
Can only presume it started following Kitching sending off v Blackburn end of season before. Let’s just be honest, robins was all over the shop with some team selections at the start of last season. Doesn’t mean he’s not a legend at the club
Brighton Sky Blue
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I mean our left back gets more sleep during 90 minutes than I do in a night. Countless times teams get success down that side of the pitch.