Skybluedownunder
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If Southampton sell Dibling and then offer £20-25m he’s gone
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If Southampton sell Dibling and then offer £20-25m he’s gone
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Skybluedownunder
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Nah it’s 100% on English players. Got fuck all to do with English clubs.
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TomRad85
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Just bookmark it and argue with me later.
Mucca Mad Boys
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Probably wouldn't have got that if they were in the Championship still. My bad, I thought he went for 32 million pounds rather than Euros.
I like Jobe Bellingham and sincerely hope he follows in Jude's footsteps, it'd be fantastic for the national team.
Skybluedownunder
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I don’t really ever wanna argue with anyone if I’m honest. It’s just a game of opinions at the end of the day…. ‘Innit’
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TomRad85
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I don't like arguing really, i do back my opinions until proven wrong though (rare.)
Mucca Mad Boys
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Depends if there's any 'ready made' replacements in the pipeline. Rudoni was involved in 33% of our goals last season so selling him for £20m (for arguments sake) at this moment probably derails the start of our season. To a similar extent to which Hamer leaving post-Wimbledon in 23/24.
For Newcastle, they need a better player than Rudoni to be frank. He almost definitely isn't at the level to make an impact for a UCL chasing club yet.
Senior Vick from Alicante
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IF Newcastle bid for him one suspects it will be to buy him cheaper now and loan him back as the cost will be higher at the end of the season at his current progression rate. He's not ready for the prem straight away and another year growing would probably be best for him. Trust the process and take the money, as to his valuation Dewsbury Hall is a good comparison who's just gone for £30 million but one suspects that 10 to 15 of that is Prem and English tax.
SkyBlueMatt
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I agree completely and it's what I've been saying. We won't get a serious offer, 100% he isn't going anywhere. Gyokeres had to do it for a couple of seasons and even then wasn't widely touted. I'm amazed that Everton (I know that he apparently rejected them) didn't throw the kitchen sink at getting him. Would have been a perfect fit (for them). After Gyokeres penultimate season, we all thought there would be but I don't remember a great amount of interest, he had to back it up.
We value Rudoni far higher than any PL club does, nothing wrong with that. He needs to back up last season and show he's better than the Championship before a PL club will drop 20-25mil on him.
SkyBlueStallion_89
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To be honest Newcastle have had a bad summer in terms of, the players that they have targeted have gone somewhere else, I've seen clips of Newcastle fans ringing up talksport moaning about their summer business, Isak wants out aswell or so it seems.
They finished high up in the prem last year, to appease the fans they will need to make big signings thatll push them on further, Rudi is a quality player but I don't think he's the type of name thatll satisfy their fans, I hope he stays and I think he will for another year, if he does have a better season then last hell be gone regardless of promotion or not, I hope he gives us another year.
They finished high up in the prem last year, to appease the fans they will need to make big signings thatll push them on further, Rudi is a quality player but I don't think he's the type of name thatll satisfy their fans, I hope he stays and I think he will for another year, if he does have a better season then last hell be gone regardless of promotion or not, I hope he gives us another year.
olderskyblue
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This site is going downhill fast…..
AFCCOVENTRY
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Mucca Mad Boys
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Just about every Prem-Prem transfer has inflated fees. What other league in the world means clubs do not "need" to sell matchday tickets to be viable?
For context, the 'average' Prem team gets more than double in TV money compared to their counterparts in Spain and Italy. That figure is over 3 times than its German and France counterparts. That's without factoring the 'prize money' for the Premiership which again, is the only league more lucrative than the UCL and by a significant margin.
It's all about the money and aside from a handful of Europe's elite clubs, they cannot compete against Prem teams financially.
Where transfer fees are inflated somewhat is for 'home grown' players which are increasingly foreign born (e.g. Cesc Fabregas was "home grown) who meet the criteria to be home grown, hence teams like Chelsea stockpile on youngsters to qualify for this by 21.
Speedie's Head
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I might do but I'd want to see more than "Sky News have been told that..." They wouldn't even quote their source this week. Very poor journalism!
Similar to the French rugby then by the sound of things, obviously not to the same rewards but the level of distortion?
skybluecam
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We wouldn’t have that much leverage. And Rudoni would be desperate to join them I’m sure. If we denied him the chance to play in the champions league I’m not sure he’d be too happy.
David O'Day
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yes, yes we would
we are not going to sell our best player for less than we want when we won't accept less than our value for the right back we have already brought a replacement for
Speedie's Head
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We'll see tomorrow if he's "rested" whether anything serious is going on at the moment.
HuckerbyDublinWhelan
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The stadium wide meltdown is gonna be epic whe. Hughes and Rudoni aren’t in the squads
Sky Blue Goblin
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You wait until Lampard announces Rushworth has a knock and Collin starts
skybluecam
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People are getting ahead of themselves. We're never getting 30m for him. 25 is probably the absolute max, but I doubt we would get that.
You have to remember he is already 24 and hasn't played in the prem yet. I don't think any Championship player at that age has gone for over 25m.
HuckerbyDublinWhelan
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Don’t threaten me with a good time!
Balli001
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How do you cope in everyday life? If you order online and see theres a tracking number do you only beleive they shipped it when it arrives at your door?
It's been said elsewhere but Newcastle are in a mess this window. Listening to Orenstein yesterday and he thinks they are looking at x2 Strikers, defender & goal keeper in the next 3 weeks before they look at a midfielder, and the calibre of player being touted is way above Rudi's current level. If they loose Isak I could see them going big for a McAtee or Elliott first to try and appease the fans
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TomRad85
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This place loves doing down our good players, as well as hamming up our absolute shite players. Weird place at times.
If Newcastle decide to bid then they've decided he's 'Newcastle standard'. We should not undersell to these clubs, the money they bring in is obscene, we should always try and get our slice of the pie when selling to them. Same as people on here complaining about prices of League One players, these clubs are in the pyramid, the top of which is controlled by the wealthiest, greediest clubs and owners in football, they should absolutely try and get decent transfer fees in such a pyramid.
If Newcastle decide to bid then they've decided he's 'Newcastle standard'. We should not undersell to these clubs, the money they bring in is obscene, we should always try and get our slice of the pie when selling to them. Same as people on here complaining about prices of League One players, these clubs are in the pyramid, the top of which is controlled by the wealthiest, greediest clubs and owners in football, they should absolutely try and get decent transfer fees in such a pyramid.
Ccfcisparks
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I think £25m with a sell on clause is a good deal.
TomRad85
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I agree.
good for us and you cant stand in his way. £25 million less say the £7-£8 million losses covered still give us £17 million, that is at least 3 maybe 4 top draw championship players we can bring in.
Ccfcisparks
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Agreed. Rudoni would be keen, and if we were rejecting £25m he would get disgruntled. £25m and a sell on clause is best for all parties.
Briles
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Adam Webster went to Brighton for £20 mil at 24 is as close as I can think
Otis
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The meltdown would be even bigger still if the teams were announced and Hughes was in the line up for us and Rudoni was in the starting 11 for them.
Lamps
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Not a teenager no. Quite far from it. But a club could sign him knowing there's plenty of years left to get their money back/make a profit and there's plenty of time for him to continue to improve. Once a player reaches about 27/28 they should be at about their peak but sign a player at this age is with the knowledge of you most probably won't get your money back.
Offhegoes
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Would he? Of course from a financial side, and perhaps like most players that is the only motivation, but we've seen the bond between him and Frank, and Jack comes across as a bright lad.
Newcastle (as others have said) are not in the rosy position they were this time last year.
If he continues his form into the new season then some even bigger names could start taking a look.
Wishful thinking perhaps, but if does go. £15-20 million (in terms of what Frank would get to spend) would get us at least 2 top, top players