Ellis Simms playoffs reason not played (13 Viewers)

[Speedie's Head]

He didn't play because his season has been hugely disappointing, unfortunately!

 

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[Captain Dart]

I thought it weird. Simms not played in playoffs? 99 appearances. One game triggers 2 million payout to Everton?

If there was an appearance payout it wouldn't be anything like 2 million, 100,000 I could believe but 2 million, laughable. Anyway it's clear he made way for Haji, when BTA went on he took EMC's position.

 

[DT-R]

Way too risky to not play him for that. Let's say we sell him and he tears it up next season with another club and bangs in 20 goals. Lampard and King would be in for an absolute roasting.

Ellis Simms couldn't tear his way out of a wet paper bag, let alone tear up a league. He failed to look good in Scotland and even I (an overweight, 40 something, Sunday league GK) could look good up front in Scotland. He's scored 40 goals total in 5 years, what's the odds on him doing 20 in 1? Very high odds that's for sure, regardless of where he is and in which league.
Time to give up on him. His size probably made him look better as a kid before all the others caught him up, but as a man, he still looks like a boy half the time. Fair play to him for managing to make a half decent career for himself, but he's as much as a professional striker as I am.

*Edit: as a side note it was always going to be hard coming in a filling the boots of Gyokeres. We, as fans, had high expectations after Vik. I thinknthe thing that's annoying isn't the fact that he's not always on his game, it's his lack of effort when he's not in the game that's the issue. Nobody on here, or in the stands expects any player to be 100% perfect 100% of the time. Every player is going to have a bad game from time to time. Every player is going to make mistakes during a game. That's the league were in and the level of it. But when he half heartedly bimbles about and apologies to opposition players for fouling them, you need a career change.

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[Evo1883]

Seems like something sisu would do rather than doug king in all honesty

 

[eyesee]

i think simms has been poorly managed this season, starting with robins who didn't know which hole to shit through after adi had gone.
lampard clearly likes confident people (kitching knocking his door asking to play. rudi wanting after hours extra sessions...), but simms isn't one of those people. i think it's just a case of manager and player not being compatible, not that simms has become shit overnight.

lampard played bta and wright upfront in the 2 legs against sunderland, having failed to turn simms' season around. both of which were poor. he has to live with the outcome of those decisions.
after a season of having real strength upfront, let down by the midfield behind it. it's particularly annoying this season to have sorted out most of the midfield issues to end up struggling upfront. it's a funny ol' game.

<<for the record, i'm a simms fan and a lampard fan. just telling it how i see it.>>

 

[Evo1883]

i think simms has been poorly managed this season, starting with robins who didn't know which hole to shit through after adi had gone.
lampard clearly likes confident people (kitching knocking his door asking to play. rudi wanting after hours extra sessions...), but simms isn't one of those people. i think it's just a case of manager and player not being compatible, not that simms has become shit overnight.

lampard played bta and wright upfront in the 2 legs against sunderland, having failed to turn simms' season around. both of which were poor. he has to live with the outcome of those decisions.
after a season of having real strength upfront, let down by the midfield behind it. it's particularly annoying this season to have sorted out most of the midfield issues

Its a good job we dont have a team full of players that need bitty bitty to perform otherwise we'd probably have not even got close

 

[SBT]

lampard clearly likes confident people (kitching knocking his door asking to play. rudi wanting after hours extra sessions...), but simms isn't one of those people.

According to the forum’s main ITK, Simms very much is one of those people.

 

[Torquay Sky Blue]

First time I saw Simms play was at Exeter in a friendly and the last time I saw Hamer in a Cov shirt. I thought Hamer was brilliant and we need him and Simms was rubbish ( what have we done) , we all wanted another Vik. He's obviously improved a lot since then but I can't help thinking he's never going to be the sharpest of strikers, he's very reactive.
I don't think his personality helps but he can't help that ...he's just a quiet lad in a very egotistical profession.

 

[Evo1883]

According to the forum’s main ITK, Simms very much is one of those people.

Who is the main ITK , saddle i assume who seems to give us the best information.

 

[SBT]

Who is the main ITK , saddle i assume who seems to give us the best information.

This guy:

See i've heard completely different, it's one of the reasons he doesn't bother me.
Was told he is very low maintenance, comes in get's his head down, works hard and follows positional instructions.
Stays behind quite a bit and works with the defenders and some other players on late arrivals in the box and set pieces.

 

[clint van damme]

K

because he'd be on the bench if we couldn't afford to bring him on. Love people's powers of reasoning.

The close season madness is well and truly up and running.

 

[clint van damme]

Who is the main ITK , saddle i assume who seems to give us the best information.

Jimmy87 as well.

 

[Grendel]

Seems like something sisu would do rather than doug king in all honesty

They did with that left back we signed from Sunderland (?) I think

 

[eyesee]

Its a good job we dont have a team full of players that need bitty bitty to perform otherwise we'd probably have not even got close

i take it you're not a wellbeing coach.

 

[Evo1883]

i take it you're not a wellbeing coach.

I'm a fan , hes underperformed for a long period wether hes started / benched doesnt matter

It cant be 2 managers , other players etc etc fault , at some point he needs to step up and do for himself what he believes he can do

Get him gone

 

[Otis]

Yeah and that's all well and good, but at some point they are going to have to introduce him to the ball.

 

[Ashdown]

He has had some brief spells where I thought, oh thats why we bought him but many others where I’ve had to wonder if he’s even playing in the correct division.

 

[robinsforever]

Ellis Simms couldn't tear his way out of a wet paper bag, let alone tear up a league. He failed to look good in Scotland and even I (an overweight, 40 something, Sunday league GK) could look good up front in Scotland. He's scored 40 goals total in 5 years, what's the odds on him doing 20 in 1? Very high odds that's for sure, regardless of where he is and in which league.
Time to give up on him. His size probably made him look better as a kid before all the others caught him up, but as a man, he still looks like a boy half the time. Fair play to him for managing to make a half decent career for himself, but he's as much as a professional striker as I am.

*Edit: as a side note it was always going to be hard coming in a filling the boots of Gyokeres. We, as fans, had high expectations after Vik. I thinknthe thing that's annoying isn't the fact that he's not always on his game, it's his lack of effort when he's not in the game that's the issue. Nobody on here, or in the stands expects any player to be 100% perfect 100% of the time. Every player is going to have a bad game from time to time. Every player is going to make mistakes during a game. That's the league were in and the level of it. But when he half heartedly bimbles about and apologies to opposition players for fouling them, you need a career change.

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Was simms a Robins signing. I ask as I remember just after we signed him.ans he played a pre season friendly and scored twice Robins called him out and basically said he was lazy which to this day baffles me why he would have said that about a new signing

 

[Skyblueabo1111]

Had we gone up that means a profit of 148 million rather than 150 million. If Lampard felt he could be the difference to us going up I'm sure he would have played.
More likely is that he was injured given he has been carrying an issue for a while now and we just put him on the bench to try and kid Sunderland that he was an option off the bench. Lampard doesn't seem the vindictive type to make an example of someone

He wasn't injured

 

[Skyblueabo1111]

He didn't play because his season has been hugely disappointing, unfortunately!

And Wright wasn't?

 

[Cally Fedora]

Lampard got it right and it’s extremely simple. Wright is our best forward. BTA is our next best. So Simms didn’t play.

 

[Evo1883]

And Wright wasn't?

He was , but generally wright has had a better season despite being out for a long period

 

[walkingalongsingingasong]

Frustrates the hell out of me. He is just so nearly in everything he does.

Nearly in the location of the ball but isn’t quite. Nearly wins headers but doesn’t, nearly intercepts passes but doesn’t, nearly drops the player marking him but doesn’t, nearly scores a goal but doesn’t. I could go on but you get the point.

 

[pusbccfc]

Lampard got it right and it’s extremely simple. Wright is our best forward. BTA is our next best. So Simms didn’t play.

Both legs were made for Simms. Not once did we properly try to get at O'Nein who's 5'9.

We were pumping balls into the box for most of it.

Simms against his old club, fully rested against CB's who had played two long, difficult games should have been brought on.

 

[matesx]

Both legs were made for Simms. Not once did we properly try to get at O'Nein who's 5'9.

We were pumping balls into the box for most of it.

Simms against his old club, fully rested against CB's who had played two long, difficult games should have been brought on.

Give it up...he's shite

 

[Cally Fedora]

Both legs were made for Simms. Not once did we properly try to get at O'Nein who's 5'9.

We were pumping balls into the box for most of it.

Simms against his old club, fully rested against CB's who had played two long, difficult games should have been brought on.

Disagree. The form Simms is in no game is made for him.

 

[Sick Boy]

Was simms a Robins signing. I ask as I remember just after we signed him.ans he played a pre season friendly and scored twice Robins called him out and basically said he was lazy which to this day baffles me why he would have said that about a new signing

Got a direct quote calling him lazy?

 

[chinamans view]

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Yeah and that's all well and good, but at some point they are going to have to introduce him to the ball.

yes he arrives that late in box its already been cleared

 

[COVKIDSNEVERQUIT]

He wasn't injured

We didn't owe any payout for appearances

Management patience has ran out

It's gonna be hard to get rid.

 

[SBT]

It's gonna be hard to get rid.

I really don’t think so.

 

[COVKIDSNEVERQUIT]

I really don’t think so.

Really, who's going to sign him then?

 

[Skyblueabo1111]

Lampard got it right and it’s extremely simple. Wright is our best forward. BTA is our next best. So Simms didn’t play.

We lost....

 

[Skyblueabo1111]

It's gonna be hard to get rid.

How did that go?

 

[Skyblueabo1111]

He was , but generally wright has had a better season despite being out for a long period

Apart from one game, he has been dreadful

 

[SBT]

Really, who's going to sign him then?

Several teams in this league were reported to be in for him when we signed him. I don’t know if we’ll recoup our fee, but he has enough pedigree, potential and track record in this league for someone to take a punt on him.