Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC (9 Viewers)

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GaryJones

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The good news is that Wasps Ruby shirts & kit are reduced to £1.99 and buy one get one free deal is on the cards - don’t expect a long queue at the club shop because in reality no one gives a shit!
 

Liquid Gold

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Do they want to rugby world to go into mourning? A 10 day enforced period with a queue to view the arena all the way round the ring road?

Rugby is fucked because they mainly lose money, these clubs have made an effort to reduce that, fair play.
 

Nick

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Do they want to rugby world to go into mourning? A 10 day enforced period with a queue to view the arena all the way round the ring road?

Rugby is fucked because they mainly lose money, these clubs have made an effort to reduce that, fair play.

Oh they look like they are blaming Exeter if they get kicked out the league.

Ironically the same account gloats about Saracens.

 

skyblu3sk

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Grendel

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They’ll still be here and be promoted again in a year - why they are slitting their wrists ive no idea
 

CCFC54321

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Serious question here as someone suggested tonight could the wasps directors be under any criminal investigation for the £35m bond and allowing the business to run massive debts? Even though back in 2018 the auditors declared the business wasn’t a going concern.

Personally I can’t see any way this can be proven that there was no intention of paying the bond back and I very much doubt this was the intention and it was all done in good faith, but it does raise the question if they could face an investigation?
 

Nick

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What happens to Cov Building Society? Who did the actually have the agreement wit?

Will it make their agreement null and void?
 

Nick

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Wasps fans ought to turn their ire at Richardson, Eastwood et al. These people ruined their standing in the rugby world and now look like they might finish Wasps as a top flight entity.

Where is Mary Mungo Midge?

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I saw one of their fans say the other day they hope Richardson doesn't lose too much.

It's weird.

They still don't seem to understand how fucked Wasps are and why.
 

Liquid Gold

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Wasps fans ought to turn their ire at Richardson, Eastwood et al. These people ruined their standing in the rugby world and now look like they might finish Wasps as a top flight entity.

Where is Mary Mungo Midge?

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That would require too much introspection and the realisation that they've been lied to for years.

No chance.
 

Travs

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They discussed this on TalkSport this evening.... Darren Bent was saying that he lives near the Ricoh and it was a "massive loss" to Coventry and the community.

They did have a rugby expert on who vaguely pointed out some animosity from the football club. But it was about as in-depth a discussion as you'd expect from TalkSport.
 

Grendel

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That would require too much introspection and the realisation that they've been lied to for years.

No chance.

A lot do like Kent wasp and oddly Sussex wasp but vulgaris has banned negative dissenters off the main forum
 

Evo1883

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What was the attendance the other day at their big " let's show up and support the club at the next home match " parade
 

Nick

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They discussed this on TalkSport this evening.... Darren Bent was saying that he lives near the Ricoh and it was a "massive loss" to Coventry and the community.

They did have a rugby expert on who vaguely pointed out some animosity from the football club. But it was about as in-depth a discussion as you'd expect from TalkSport.

Which community is he living in where it will be a loss?
 

oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
Far from an expert on the admin process but wasn't the reason that Otium were the preferred bidder when Sisu put the club into admin because effectively the debt was owed to Sisu. So in theory Otium's offer to repay nearly all the debt (by just moving money around) represented the best offer for the creditors (Sisu). This is a bit different as the debt is owed to HMRC, bond holders and other external parties. Ie. Wasps under a different guise couldn't fabricate a best offer for the rugby club.

Richardson is a big creditor though and its whether there is any precedence in the debts which is the big issue. I still think that a likely outcome of this process is that another Richardson controlled entity is able to buy the assets.
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Precedence is bondholders then HMRC. Whatever's left after that goes to the other creditors.
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Fixed charges take precedence over hmrc debt and all other debts There are two fixed charges on wasps holdings one in favour of the bondholders the other in favour of Richardson. So he might not take a hit or as big a hit as it seems. Things like the sports grants, ordinary traders, major suppliers will bear the brunt

The statement issued seems to me to be part of a planned process which I think will end with Ashley owning the stadium. In terms only of the stadium he would not be my choice. Needs a specialist stadium operator. In terms of ccfc future though he would be the obvious choice to get the stadium

As for American billionaires I don't think they are involved as this is going to all happen quite quickly if the statement is to be believed. Can't help thinking there is a lot of stage management going on.

Not sure where that leaves wasps, could easily be a new company that buys the rugby assets and plays somewhere down the leagues. I suppose more likely 150 years of history sacrificed for sake of a year in championship in a brand new company and a deal that keeps them at CBSA until they get back to the Premiership (year after next )

I wouldn't want to be a trade creditor of wasps right now not looking like they will get anything back which could mean job losses but hey that's OK the bondholders will get sorted.

The bondholders knew the risk, knew investments dont always work, took the high interest and belly ached because they chose to make a bad investment that might not pay out. Meanwhile hard working people will be out of a job just as the economy tanks interest rates & inflation rocket. 😡

Wasps are famous club run by a bunch of shysters good riddance. No sympathy from me
 

Flying Fokker

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Richardson is a big creditor though and its whether there is any precedence in the debts which is the big issue. I still think that a likely outcome of this process is that another Richardson controlled entity is able to buy the assets.

Precedence is bondholders then HMRC. Whatever's left after that goes to the other creditors.
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Fixed charges take precedence over hmrc debt and all other debts There are two fixed charges on wasps holdings one in favour of the bondholders the other in favour of Richardson. So he might not take a hit or as big a hit as it seems. Things like the sports grants, ordinary traders, major suppliers will bear the brunt

The statement issued seems to me to be part of a planned process which I think will end with Ashley owning the stadium. In terms only of the stadium he would not be my choice. Needs a specialist stadium operator. In terms of ccfc future though he would be the obvious choice to get the stadium

As for American billionaires I don't think they are involved as this is going to all happen quite quickly if the statement is to be believed. Can't help thinking there is a lot of stage management going on.

Not sure where that leaves wasps, could easily be a new company that buys the rugby assets and plays somewhere down the leagues. I suppose more likely 150 years of history sacrificed for sake of a year in championship in a brand new company and a deal that keeps them at CBSA until they get back to the Premiership (year after next )

I wouldn't want to be a trade creditor of wasps right now not looking like they will get anything back which could mean job losses but hey that's OK the bondholders will get sorted.

The bondholders knew the risk, knew investments dont always work, took the high interest and belly ached because they chose to make a bad investment that might not pay out. Meanwhile hard working people will be out of a job just as the economy tanks interest rates & inflation rocket. 😡

Wasps are famous club run by a bunch of shysters good riddance. No sympathy from me
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Just wondering? Is it likely that Ashley will buy in the expertise to run the stadium/ any acquired business? I know that event companies are such but a guy like Ashley would surely know how to pull the resources together? Oh, and well said BTW.
 
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jordan210

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Im still going to call it. Something dodgy will be done with Wasps community foundation. No way they would restore that company if they are about to go tits up

Same with Richardson becoming a director of both the Arena companies in late august
 

Grendel

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Im still going to call it. Something dodgy will be done with Wasps community foundation. No way they would restore that company if they are about to go tits up

Same with Richardson becoming a director of both the Arena companies in late august

Ashley is in prime position and will take the club and the arena i think
 
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