Went onto farcebook last night as there was an update on how my kids are getting on. Next to it was the normal Brexit madness. But as I know the pair of them had a little read. This was halfway down. I am remain but fully agree with what was said. I have tried countless times to question what is going on here. But he has worded it much better than myself. The remain whatever didn't have a reply to it. But it will be twisted by others on here as they don't know the person with the 1st and 3rd post.
One thing I'm curious about Scott and you might be one of the few people sensible enough to answer It's been widely reported that one of the reasons a lot of people stuck to brexit is because the remainers chose to insult them calling them thick or racist rather than making any valid points, and this seems to still be the case, this post here for example basically suggests brexiteers are just sun/daily mail reading imbeciles and if you look objectively at most other remain material it's basically the same, insulting and abusive against brexiteers, no point being made just childish attacks and generally poor behaviour. So my question is what is this aiming to achieve? Is it a well reasoned argument? Does it make remainers look like they know what they're doing or does it make them look like toddlers? Maybe if for just a few seconds people could approach the issue like adults we'd get somewhere Just a thought
Matthew the intention is to ask people the review their sources and potentially look for others and examine the actual truth not the Murdock media empires bought and paid for propaganda tool! I understand that some may be insulted by me suggesting that they may have believed lies but it's not them that I blame, it's the people that sold them these lies and continue to do so whilst profiting from the chaos! I also like to think that barring a few sporadic posts similar to this I enter the discourse with facts and manners. These two are essential elements of a healthy debate!
But can't you see that's not what you're doing? Be objective and read it again. It's all in capitals and the tone basically reads as "if you don't agree with me you're an idiot" Even now you've said brexiteers need to look at other sources, that they were lied to and manipulated, as if the remain campaign has been a pillar of righteousness based on facts and truth rather than speculation and make believe. The whole thing smacks of a religious feud with people arguing over whose fairytale is true and that's never going to win anyone's mind over, just entrench them further. On top of this so much of what's been posted is hypocrisy (not saying you've posted this stuff) recently we've seen the suspension of parliament compared to Hitler, yet when the concept of repeated referenda was compared the same way it was laughed at by remainers despite both being factually accurate just each suiting a different agenda. Yesterday I saw remainers posting about Churchill, yet when brexiteers did this they were reminded of his views on slavery and belittled for how evil he suddenly was. There are more examples but these two recent ones explain my point enough. All im saying is that you're not going to change anyone's mind by insulting them or acting like petulant children, you might by using facts (not predictions and theories) but then the truth is neither side actually has any facts at all, not unless we've discovered time travel, in which case we can just go back and change our minds later anyway. Have a scroll through today's news feed and take an honest objective look at the remain posts you see, ask yourself how you'd feel if that post was aimed at you instead and you'll see what I mean
