Sleep Disturbances & Insomnia

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  1. trevelfarandwide

    trevelfarandwide Well-Known Member

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    Self-explanatory...it's 4:40am. :-)

    Up until 3 years ago, I slept as peacefully as a child for 8-9 hours a night; now, pfft, Restless Leg Syndrome has bolloxed that, well and truly. And in turn, bouts of insomnia have crept into my life. It's wank, it truly is.

    Anyone else a sufferer?
     
  2. Otis

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    I'm think I am opposite in some ways.

    Could never ever GET to sleep in the past and it would take me hours. These days though I can drop off in an instant.

    I do always have to get up in the night to go to the toilet though. Never, ever been able to sleep all through the night.
     
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  3. Otis

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    It is a bit of a bummer. Usually get up twice in the night. I can usually get back to sleep though.
     
  4. skybluejelly

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    Yep ..haven't had a proper nights sleep for ages .. Normally 3-4 hrs at most ..drive the wife mad keep moving so end up getting up ....the only time I sleep for a long period is when I am ill and I am very rarely ill.
    If I fall asleep for half an hour I am then wide awake ..

    Pretty sure it is to do with not working had enough...I don't mean not working ( I do on average 70 odd hrs a week ) but it's not very physical work ,

    I am a member of the gym but you probably have to attend to make you tired
     
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    As I keep getting up, my wife sleeps upstairs and I sleep on the sofa. Been like that for 10 years.

    I am well happy.
     
  6. trevelfarandwide

    trevelfarandwide Well-Known Member

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    Well, if it's the restlessness etc that's waking you up, as well as keeping you awake, it's definitely RLS. It's a broad term really, since most sufferers like myself get that fucking horrible restlessness sensation pretty much throughout their body, and it's impossible to ignore it and drop off.

    I think the condition is actually worsened by activeness and whatnot, especially driving for some reason.

    The doctor will prescribe either Amytriptaline (be careful with this, I took it and was close to hanging myself) or Ropinirole (which I'm on, but the prescribed dose is never enough to actually WORK). What the quack WON'T tell you is that a moderate to strong dose of Opiate will dramatically reduce the symptoms and help you greatly. Of course, I'm not condoning becoming a dependent on Opiates, but yes, a moderate to strong dose usually works. I've heard Cannabis helps too, taken orally or that oil you can get, but again, I'm not condoning it outright because I physically cannot take Cannabis in any form - makes me a dribbling cabbage, with weird delusions. Bit like Tim Fisher, actually.

    Nothing else will help with RLS, mate. It's a curse, I'm sure.
     
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    Got a 14 month old and I work 7 12 hour day shifts and 7 12 hours night shifts a month. Sometimes changing from days to nights twice in 2 weeks. Sleep is a distant memory.
     
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  8. trevelfarandwide

    trevelfarandwide Well-Known Member

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    Yet GIF time is plentiful. :-) Seriously, I know the strains of exhausting on/off 12 hour shifts, it's evil. Add a child or two into the equation, and you're a crying mess in the toilet. Not me, of course.
     
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    Sky_Blue_Daz Well-Known Member

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    Sleep pattern all over the place
    I did a nightshift last night I was home in bed for 7 wide awake at 11 this morning

    Come 7pm I'll be on the bones of me arse knackered and grouchy
     
  11. Sick Boy

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    I've suffered from insomnia since I was a child and the only thing that ever helped it was cannabis. It's ridiculous it remains illegal for both medical and recreational purposes in the UK. If they only focused on the negative effects of alcohol on the individual and society, it would be deemed far worse.
     
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    I've struggled to have a proper sleeping pattern for years. I've never been able to fully switch off in the mind department and am usually kept awake until the small hours thinking about various problems in everyday life.

    When I do nod off I'm awake an hour or so later needing a piss. Energy drink abuse has one hell of an effect that in that department and when I do wake it can take another hour or so to nod off again and that's my night every night. By 8am I'm shattered but it's time to get up.

    Oddly I often fall asleep within minutes when sat on a bus or train, even with ear bleedingly loud music coming out of my headphones.
     
  13. trevelfarandwide

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    Indeed, the effects of Cannabis seem to be tilted in favour of positive effects, including aid with sleep disorders. There is, however, a minority of people (myself included) that experience none of the positive effects; in fact, quite the opposite.

    I'd go as far as to say, if Cannabis helps you in any way, it should be a NECESSITY. As long as it isn't abused, of course.
     
  14. Nick

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    Try powdered Taurine, see if that helps. Mix it in with some water,
     
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    A wank and a spliff will work mate
     
  16. skybluedan

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    Or get yourself a Arizer extreme q vape and drop a bit of herb in that and then you will sleep mate
     
  17. Sick Boy

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    I have had issues with alcohol previously and therefore no longer drink much at all. It also brings out the worst in me and I am perfectlt happy not drinking. That doesn't mean that everyone else should be denied the choice to drink though, much the same as it should be for cannabis.

    I have never had any negative experiences with cannabis and can honestly take it or leave it.
     
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    I have been meaning to give this a try.
     
  19. Nick

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    It will help in the gym as well if you have it pre workout.

    Ten Excellent Nutrition Tips for Better Sleep

    Not sure how much of it is mind over matter, my wife had bad toothache and couldn't sleep so told her to try some and she was more relaxed and slept. I used to have it for the gym and football training and was more focused and a bit of a machine, although it did make it seem as if I had a staring problem because I'd focus on weird stuff like a handle on a weights bench but I'd fire out sets like they were nothing without really realising.

    I had it to sleep and I found I'd look at the light on the TV being in standby and then just drift off.
     
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  20. Sick Boy

    Sick Boy Well-Known Member

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    Cheers! How can it help you fire out sets but also put you to sleep?!
     
  21. Nick

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    No idea, I think its about the focus stuff.

    Supplement Guide: Taurine

    I had a bag from My Protein and used it all the time, think I became a bit immune.
     
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    I just find waking up an issue.

    It's rare I struggle to get to sleep, normally only if I have something important on the next day. However, I can also stay up all night with ease (willingly).

    My issue, is I could go to sleep at 10pm, so in theory wake up around 6am, but would struggle to wake up by 8am :(
     
  23. Sick Boy

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    Thanks mate, will some with my next MyP order.
     
  24. trevelfarandwide

    trevelfarandwide Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, same here with alcohol, although I've never had an issue with it, whatever I drink turns me into Mr Miserable or Mr Fighty - therefore, I only have a social pint here or there.

    Anything taken or drank responsibly is generally acceptable, however it depends entirely on the person; addictive personalities are so, so common...myself included, so it's hard work even taking co-codamol for a poxy headache.

    If cannabis helps the individual with no negative effects, like I said, it should be a part of their lifestyle.

    Sleep Update: 2 decent night's sleep, 7-ish hours in total per night, which is pretty good. Saves having to ponder the use of benzo's to get into a solid sleep pattern...last resort, people, benzo's are delightful but ultimately destructive.
     
  25. Nick

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    Did have some codiene once, i'm not one for drugs but they did the job and I can see why people would get addicted.
     
  26. Sick Boy

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    I think that a lot more people have issues with it but don't actually realise as it is deemed to be somewhat socially acceptable. I enjoy a couple of pints and some wine, but have no interest in binge drinking whatsoever.
     
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    Chamomile tea is good for inducing sleepiness. Anyone having sleep problems should try it. I think they sell it in most supermarkets.
     
  28. Houchens Head

    Houchens Head Fairly well known member from the Isle of Wight

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    I haven't slept through the night since I finished work 7 years ago. I just don't seem so tired now. I wake up with cramp in my legs a lot and needing to pee throughout the night, but that's probably down to my diabetes. I suppose being on 17 tablets a day for various bits (mainly heart) doesn't help. Also incredible pain in my knee keeps me awake (waiting for a knee replacement op).
    Trevelfarandwide: I am also on Amitriptyline twice a day for pain relief. I was told to take up to 5 a day! Sod that!
     
  29. trevelfarandwide

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    5 a day? Bloody hell. 3 of them nearly had me trying to gas myself in an electric cooker. ;-)

    Thing is, HH, everyone's brain chemistry is unique (as you probably know), and a drug may affect 5 different people 5 different ways. But yeah, I'd go easy on the Amitryptaline, 5 does seem a lot. :-/ It has it's benefits for those who can tolerate it, but I don't fully trust these 'multi-purpose' drugs, there's a lot of side effects involved.

    Well the sleep pattern is steadily shite again, only getting about 6 hours-ish in total...might see if the quack can chuck me a few Zopiclone.
     
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    I have thought about it, to be honest, is it tasty enough? Anything too bitter or tangy usually has me gagging.
     
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    Re: Chamomile tea. If you've never drunk herbal tea, it will be an acquired taste, but the object is to make you sleepy not to have a delicious beverage. You need to decide your priorities. If you don't like the taste, stir in a little honey.
     
  32. Nick

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    Used to always have chamomile tea, it didn't taste too bad in all honesty. Just let it cool down a bit and sip it.
     
  33. trevelfarandwide

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    I drink Green Tea and actually stomached some Lapsang Souchong, which was definitely an acquired taste. :-)

    Point taken about the priority, I just have a strangely sensitive gag reflex. Thanks for the info.
     
  34. torchomatic

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    I've always had the same sort of sleep pattern. The minute my head touches the pillow I will be asleep, but if I wake up during the night then I can be awake for hours. Happens most nights. I was awake from around 4-6am this morning, night before it was 1am-3.30am. Annoying.
     

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